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  1. Mennas Joint Mennas Joint is offline

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    Mar 8th, 2009 (3/8/2009 4:53am)

    Any idea why this is not offered online in cash games, and are there any sites that either do allow this or are thinking about it? For as often as it happens in live play, it seems like on the major sites it would be offered...

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  2. satchmo satchmo is offline

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    Mar 8th, 2009 (3/8/2009 4:55am) in reply to Mennas Joint

    and how 'bout chopping (preflop) and checking 'dark'. . . .
  3. JesseWJames JesseWJames is offline

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    Mar 8th, 2009 (3/8/2009 4:56am) in reply to Mennas Joint

    I dont play cash games, and the first I heard of straddling was in the PAD episode w/ the guys from Card Runners. What is a straddle? and yeah flame flame, but I don't play cash games...
     
  4. Mennas Joint Mennas Joint is offline

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    Mar 8th, 2009 (3/8/2009 5:07am) in reply to JesseWJames

    A straddle is a blind bet made from under the gun, which is 2x the big blind, and is announced before the cards are dealt. If there is a straddle, the person who straddled gets last option and closes the action by either checking, calling, or raising. In an unstraddled hand, the big blind gets last option obviously.

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  5. JesseWJames JesseWJames is offline

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    Mar 8th, 2009 (3/8/2009 5:17am) in reply to Mennas Joint

    oh ok, so its like there is three blinds pretty much?
     
  6. CJDeman CJDeman is offline

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    Mar 8th, 2009 (3/8/2009 5:20am) in reply to JesseWJames

    Is it not basically a blind min raise UTG? Given most poker player's desire NOT to pay a blind, it seems peverse to me that anyone other than a degenerate gambler would want to straddle. Or am I missing something?
     
  7. JesseWJames JesseWJames is offline

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    Mar 8th, 2009 (3/8/2009 5:36am) in reply to CJDeman

    does it only give you last to act pre flop?
     
  8. Defndrofangels Defndrofangels is offline

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    Mar 8th, 2009 (3/8/2009 6:31am) in reply to JesseWJames

    I've always thought of the straddle as a 3rd blind.
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    Mar 8th, 2009 (3/8/2009 6:32am) in reply to Defndrofangels

    haha yeah, thats what I just was thinking, its exactly what it is
     
  10. Jukeboksi Jukeboksi is offline

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    Mar 8th, 2009 (3/8/2009 7:54am) in reply to JesseWJames

     
    Originally Posted by JesseWJames View Post

    does it only give you last to act pre flop?

    Yes. Straddles are good for your image but I wouldn't recommend ever straddling unless you are comfortable playing flops and defending your blinds/straddle.
  11. Frank1The1Tank Frank1The1Tank is offline

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    Mar 8th, 2009 (3/8/2009 7:56am) in reply to CJDeman

     
    Originally Posted by CJDeman View Post

    Is it not basically a blind min raise UTG? Given most poker player's desire NOT to pay a blind, it seems peverse to me that anyone other than a degenerate gambler would want to straddle. Or am I missing something?

    It creates action in a cash game by adding additional forced money to every pot. Allowing people to open lighter, thus making ranges wider overall for all players and causing ppl to play more aggressively.
     
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    Mar 8th, 2009 (3/8/2009 12:21pm) in reply to Mennas Joint

    If a Mississippi straddle (button straddle) is allowed, you should do it every time. The Rio is the only place I can think of which allows this.
     
  13. Dyzalot Dyzalot is offline

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    Mar 8th, 2009 (3/8/2009 12:27pm) in reply to ka$ino

     
    Originally Posted by ka$ino View Post

    The Rio is the only place I can think of which allows this.

    Tunica perhaps? And yes, always straddle the button if you can and I believe you should only straddle UTG if the whole table agrees to do it.
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  14. I Spew Chips I Spew Chips is offline

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    Mar 8th, 2009 (3/8/2009 1:12pm) in reply to Dyzalot

    I don't know if they still allow it but a year or two ago I was at the Horseshoe (Caesars then) in southern Indiana and they were allowing no cap Mississippi straddle at 1/2.
     
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    Mar 8th, 2009 (3/8/2009 1:22pm) in reply to Mennas Joint

    Straddles are good for when the table is playing very tight. As mentioned above, it will open up the game a bit. A few straddles in a row and the table tends to loosen.

    I never understood why anyone would volunteer to raise preflop until I was in Vegas this weekend and playing with a bunch of tight people. I finally straddled, got the pot up. Next person did also after the won that hand, and from then on the pots were actually worth something.
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