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Straight Facing River Overshove Deep in the Midnight Madness

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  1. P33J P33J is offline

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    Jul 15th, 2010 (7/15/2010 7:20am)

    Full Tilt Poker Game #22330721684: Midnight Madness Rush! (169366664), Table 127 - 400/800 Ante 100 - No Limit Hold'em - 2:15:38 ET - 2010/07/15
    Seat 1: rhroslothrop (31,295)
    Seat 2: ManUtdFan88 (12,390)
    Seat 3: diggum79 (29,702)
    Seat 4: dpottz (69,906)
    Seat 5: tournik (121,888)
    Seat 6: day2tuza (56,760)
    Seat 7: GREENMANPLAYA (37,025)
    Seat 8: P33J (57,579)
    Seat 9: schrage17 (57,997)
    rhroslothrop antes 100
    ManUtdFan88 antes 100
    diggum79 antes 100
    dpottz antes 100
    tournik antes 100
    day2tuza antes 100
    GREENMANPLAYA antes 100
    P33J antes 100
    schrage17 antes 100
    ManUtdFan88 posts the small blind of 400
    diggum79 posts the big blind of 800
    The button is in seat #1
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to P33J [Ac Th]
    dpottz folds
    tournik folds
    day2tuza folds
    GREENMANPLAYA has 8 seconds left to act
    GREENMANPLAYA raises to 1,600
    P33J calls 1,600
    schrage17 folds
    rhroslothrop folds
    ManUtdFan88 folds
    diggum79 calls 800
    *** FLOP *** [Kd Jh Kc]
    diggum79 checks
    GREENMANPLAYA checks
    P33J checks
    *** TURN *** [Kd Jh Kc] [Qc]
    diggum79 bets 1,600
    GREENMANPLAYA calls 1,600
    P33J has 15 seconds left to act
    P33J calls 1,600
    *** RIVER *** [Kd Jh Kc Qc] [9h]
    diggum79 bets 26,402, and is all in
    GREENMANPLAYA has 15 seconds left to act
    GREENMANPLAYA folds
    P33J has 15 seconds left to act
    P33J has requested TIME

    Original raiser was bad, no reads on the BB. What do you think?
     
  2. super plaaayer super plaaayer is offline

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    Jul 15th, 2010 (7/15/2010 8:19am) in reply to P33J

    Ugh, i mean, i dont think u can fold.
     
  3. rhap rhap is offline

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    Jul 15th, 2010 (7/15/2010 8:27am) in reply to super plaaayer

    He could easily be doing this with a 10 as well KJ or KQ. If he has a full boat, it doesn't look like he is even attempting to get value out of it. I can't get away from it. Raise turn btw.
  4. P33J P33J is offline

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    Jul 15th, 2010 (7/15/2010 9:19am) in reply to rhap

     
    Originally Posted by rhap View Post

    He could easily be doing this with a 10 as well KJ or KQ. If he has a full boat, it doesn't look like he is even attempting to get value out of it. I can't get away from it. Raise turn btw.

    My computer actually froze on the turn so i just panic hit call so i wouldn't time out lol
     
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  5. earosemena earosemena is offline

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    Jul 15th, 2010 (7/15/2010 1:27pm) in reply to P33J

    I'd call there.. no raise pre from diggum? (dont know his style..so maybe rules out QQ,KK,AA, AK, maybe KQ) ... hes most likely at T9,Tx sooted... and you beat a bunch with no flush possibility
    maybe he's compensating on river after failing to pick up value with Kx... if he shows K9, bless his heart ( I second rhap on raising turn.. u most likely have best hand here.. raise, get value on his Kx)
  6. Meerkat Meerkat is offline

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    Jul 15th, 2010 (7/15/2010 1:51pm) in reply to earosemena

    I smell a/k so id call
  7. Aaron_Hacker Aaron_Hacker is offline

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    Jul 15th, 2010 (7/15/2010 1:59pm) in reply to P33J

     
    Originally Posted by P33J View Post

    My computer actually froze on the turn so i just panic hit call so i wouldn't time out lol

    likely story.. j/k dude.. i just don't see how you can fold here.. im sure he had KJ or KQ since you're posting it, but I don't see myself folding this, esp in the midnight madness. If he was full on the flop or the turn the 9 on the riv is the worst card ever since he is likely jamming all broadway with T combo's that he wouldve led with on the turn that you rape like KT, QT, JT etc.. stupid spot..

    Edit: if you lose you still have 27k at 400/800, no way im folding this in midnight madness
    Edited By: Aaron_Hacker Jul 15th, 2010 at 02:29 PM
     
  8. AlwaysImproving AlwaysImproving is offline

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    Jul 15th, 2010 (7/15/2010 2:03pm) in reply to Aaron_Hacker

    I fold...Most times that I've been in spots like when they overshove it means they have the nuts. You still have plenty of chips left and not much invested so why call when your basically guessing. Just my two cents.
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    Jul 15th, 2010 (7/15/2010 11:02pm) in reply to Aaron_Hacker

     
    Originally Posted by ImTheJackal View Post

    likely story.. j/k dude.. i just don't see how you can fold here.. im sure he had KJ or KQ since you're posting it, but I don't see myself folding this, esp in the midnight madness. If he was full on the flop or the turn the 9 on the riv is the worst card ever since he is likely jamming all broadway with T combo's that he wouldve led with on the turn that you rape like KT, QT, JT etc.. stupid spot..

    Edit: if you lose you still have 27k at 400/800, no way im folding this in midnight madness

    I actually folded, but then wished I had called but then was unsure. Just seemed like a really shitty spot, if i have no clue what to do I usually lean towards a fold. In cash this kind of line is usually someone trying to get max value at the river from all of the straights on the board.
     
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  10. Suitedace87 Suitedace87 is offline

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    Jul 15th, 2010 (7/15/2010 11:16pm) in reply to P33J

    3b pre and go from there IMO, as played, i would just have to go with my gut in this particular situation
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