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  1. Zefa Zefa is offline

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    Nov 11th, 2007 (11/11/2007 3:14pm)

    In the tourny description:

    "The final table will be recorded and replayed, with all hole cards exposed."

    This is the first week they're forcing open hole cards in the replay iirc. I think this is a good idea since I usually like looking at the replays and it bugs me to only see half the hole cards.
     
  2. skeeze666 skeeze666 is offline

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    Nov 11th, 2007 (11/11/2007 3:19pm) in reply to Zefa

    Before the bashing of your post commences, I thought I'd let you know that this has been brought up numerous times this week.

    Thought you'd like to know why you are about to see a bunch of:

    "we landed on the moon" responses
  3. TMLMS13 TMLMS13 is offline

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    Nov 11th, 2007 (11/11/2007 3:21pm) in reply to skeeze666

    when stars did their quadruple shootout, the forced u to show ur cards in the replay, there was a message that told you that when u registered for it too
  4. bikocruz bikocruz is offline

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    Nov 11th, 2007 (11/11/2007 3:52pm) in reply to Zefa

    This is bullshit.
    I understand why the WPT and other televised events force you to show your holecards to make for good tv to the masses.
    Sure the replays are fun to watch, but I see no reason why stars is making everyone expose their cards.
  5. Damage1 Damage1 is offline

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    Nov 11th, 2007 (11/11/2007 3:54pm) in reply to bikocruz

    why not?
  6. bikocruz bikocruz is offline

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    Nov 11th, 2007 (11/11/2007 3:58pm) in reply to Damage1

    Are you serious?
    You can learn so much about someones game being able to see their cards every hand. Why the hell would I want ppl that I play everyday to have easy access to that information?
  7. Vesper Vesper is offline

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    Nov 11th, 2007 (11/11/2007 4:08pm) in reply to bikocruz

    Who gives a shit?

    The truly skilled can adapt to any situations, look at people like Annette and Mig.com who expose themselves (lol?) all the time, they continue to win money.

    This is a pretty cool idea, and really, most of the time the sunday final table is full of nobodies anyway, it'll be nice to see how bad the play really is during this thing.
  8. hoboman50 hoboman50 is offline

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    Nov 11th, 2007 (11/11/2007 4:08pm) in reply to bikocruz

    I think this is a great idea. There are usually mostly unknowns at the final table anyways, if you don't like it - don't play. If some of the pros dislike the idea they won't play that tourney, but everyone still plays the WPT and WSOP with the same showing of hole cards. Beyond that, it probably could be a proactive approach to the Absolute cheating scandal and having full disclosure.
    hobo
  9. FishOnTilt FishOnTilt is offline

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    Nov 11th, 2007 (11/11/2007 4:13pm) in reply to hoboman50

    this is such bullshit.
     
  10. Zefa Zefa is offline

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    Nov 11th, 2007 (11/11/2007 4:32pm) in reply to Zefa

    If I made a sunday million table, the revealing my hole cards at the FT would be the last thing on my mind.
     
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  11. melbournejoe melbournejoe is offline

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    Nov 11th, 2007 (11/11/2007 4:34pm) in reply to Vesper

    mig.com is doing instructional stuff? where?
     
  12. Ballistik Ballistik is offline

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    Nov 11th, 2007 (11/11/2007 5:22pm) in reply to Zefa

    ditto zefa
  13. calebku33 calebku33 is offline

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    Nov 11th, 2007 (11/11/2007 11:06pm) in reply to Ballistik

    Now Zefa is the 2nd in chips with 37 left...he might get a chance to expose the hole cards if he can hang on...
  14. Saintsfan1 Saintsfan1 is offline

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    Nov 11th, 2007 (11/11/2007 11:08pm) in reply to calebku33

    gl zefa
  15. Zefa Zefa is offline

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    Nov 11th, 2007 (11/11/2007 11:15pm) in reply to Zefa

    I choked! Wheeeee blew 4 mil chip in like 4 hands. lol
     
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  16. calebku33 calebku33 is offline

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    Nov 11th, 2007 (11/11/2007 11:19pm) in reply to Zefa

    Haha...saw that...you're still only one double up away from being right back in the hunt
  17. imac624 imac624 is offline

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    Nov 11th, 2007 (11/11/2007 11:23pm) in reply to Zefa

    Right back in it now, keep it up, lets see if we can get 2 FT's for Londonderry today
  18. calebku33 calebku33 is offline

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    Nov 11th, 2007 (11/11/2007 11:24pm) in reply to calebku33

    back on track!!!
  19. TMLMS13 TMLMS13 is offline

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    Nov 11th, 2007 (11/11/2007 11:25pm) in reply to calebku33

    recognizable names might care ie Andy Mcleod
  20. smileyfaces smileyfaces is offline

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    Nov 11th, 2007 (11/11/2007 11:41pm) in reply to Zefa

    gl Zefa and John Duthie
  21. calebku33 calebku33 is offline

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    Nov 12th, 2007 (11/12/2007 12:12am) in reply to smileyfaces

    lol...something super sick must've happened...i watched Zefa take a beat AI preflop w/ 10/10 v. A9o, which cripped him down to dead last place with 19 left and only about ONE BIG BLIND. (120k)...now he's back up to 4.5 million 20 minutes later when i check back in...haha
  22. Zefa Zefa is offline

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    Nov 12th, 2007 (11/12/2007 12:20am) in reply to calebku33

    pokerstars GAME #13189775873: TOURNAMENT #65933429, $200+$15 HOLD'EM NO LIMIT - LEVEL XXXI (80000/160000) - 2007/11/12 - 00:51:14 (ET)
    Table '65933429 488' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
    Seat 1: hogriesta (1889774 in chips)
    Seat 2: Zefa (3002024 in chips)
    Seat 3: rickL-UNIT (2867016 in chips)
    Seat 5: ducesarewild (2709191 in chips)
    Seat 8: John Duthie (3713165 in chips)
    Seat 9: safeel (9284094 in chips) is sitting out
    hogriesta: posts the ante 16000
    Zefa: posts the ante 16000
    rickL-UNIT: posts the ante 16000
    ducesarewild: posts the ante 16000
    John Duthie: posts the ante 16000
    safeel: posts the ante 16000
    hogriesta: posts small blind 80000
    Zefa: posts big blind 160000
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to Zefa [Td Tc]
    rickL-UNIT: folds
    safeel has returned
    ducesarewild: raises 2533191 to 2693191 and is all-in
    John Duthie: folds
    safeel: folds
    hogriesta: folds
    Zefa: calls 2533191
    *** FLOP *** [Ks Ac 4c]
    *** TURN *** [Ks Ac 4c] [3h]
    *** RIVER *** [Ks Ac 4c 3h] [4d]
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    Zefa: shows [Td Tc] (two pair, Tens and Fours)
    ducesarewild: shows [As 9h] (two pair, Aces and Fours)
    ducesarewild collected 5562382 from pot
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 5562382 | Rake 0
    Board [Ks Ac 4c 3h 4d]
    Seat 1: hogriesta (small blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 2: Zefa (big blind) showed [Td Tc] and lost with two pair, Tens and Fours
    Seat 3: rickL-UNIT folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 5: ducesarewild showed [As 9h] and won (5562382) with two pair, Aces and Fours
    Seat 8: John Duthie folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 9: safeel (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)

    That guy's a nut
     
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  23. calebku33 calebku33 is offline

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    Nov 12th, 2007 (11/12/2007 12:22am) in reply to Zefa

    Yeah, he keeps trying his best to get it in behind. How'd you climb back from 1 BB? 3 straight double ups or something?
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    Nov 12th, 2007 (11/12/2007 12:25am) in reply to calebku33

    zefffffffffa FTW weeeeeeeeeeeeeee glglglgl bro finish thisss!
  25. Zefa Zefa is offline

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    Nov 12th, 2007 (11/12/2007 12:45am) in reply to TheGfactor

    Luck sackage

    pokerstars Game #13190343103: Tournament #65933429, $200+$15 Hold'em No Limit - Level XXXIV (150000/300000) - 2007/11/12 - 01:41:47 (ET)
    Table '65933429 314' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
    Seat 1: John Duthie (6309837 in chips)
    Seat 2: mbeezy02 (5617916 in chips)
    Seat 5: rickL-UNIT (6436112 in chips)
    Seat 6: Zefa (4705328 in chips)
    Seat 8: ducesarewild (9268037 in chips)
    John Duthie: posts the ante 30000
    mbeezy02: posts the ante 30000
    rickL-UNIT: posts the ante 30000
    Zefa: posts the ante 30000
    ducesarewild: posts the ante 30000
    John Duthie: posts small blind 150000
    mbeezy02: posts big blind 300000
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to Zefa [Ah Qd]
    rickL-UNIT: folds
    Zefa: raises 600000 to 900000
    ducesarewild: folds
    John Duthie: raises 2400000 to 3300000
    mbeezy02: folds
    Zefa: raises 1375328 to 4675328 and is all-in
    John Duthie: calls 1375328
    *** FLOP *** [4d 4h 5d]
    *** TURN *** [4d 4h 5d] [Ad]
    *** RIVER *** [4d 4h 5d Ad] [5c]
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    John Duthie: shows [Qc Qh] (two pair, Queens and Fives)
    Zefa: shows [Ah Qd] (two pair, Aces and Fives)
    Zefa collected 9800656 from pot
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 9800656 | Rake 0
    Board [4d 4h 5d Ad 5c]
    Seat 1: John Duthie (small blind) showed [Qc Qh] and lost with two pair, Queens and Fives
    Seat 2: mbeezy02 (big blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 5: rickL-UNIT folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 6: Zefa showed [Ah Qd] and won (9800656) with two pair, Aces and Fives
    Seat 8: ducesarewild (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
     
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  26. calebku33 calebku33 is offline

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    Nov 12th, 2007 (11/12/2007 12:46am) in reply to Zefa

    LOL...saw that one...it was super dirty...classy of Duthie to take it like a champ, though.
  27. calebku33 calebku33 is offline

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    Nov 12th, 2007 (11/12/2007 12:50am) in reply to calebku33

    FT! ZEFA is gonna have his hole cards exposed.
  28. houston_wildcard houston_wildcard is offline

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    Nov 12th, 2007 (11/12/2007 12:57am) in reply to calebku33

    Dealer: icallseat3 finished the tournament in 8th place

    Dealer: Game #13190477257: safeel wins pot (1280000)

    StaffBryanS [Host]: When you walk up with $13,268, I'm pretty sure you can claim any seat you like!

    Sun MIL FT's Just ain't the same w/o Lee
  29. GusTheHun GusTheHun is offline

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    Nov 12th, 2007 (11/12/2007 1:24am) in reply to calebku33

    poor Zefa... :o)
  30. Jims14 Jims14 is offline

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    Nov 12th, 2007 (11/12/2007 1:25am) in reply to calebku33

    Congrats on 81k
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