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  1. essexcowboy essexcowboy is offline

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    Feb 13th, 2011 (2/13/2011 7:34pm)

    Sunday Warm up poker stars 215$

    Blinds are 100 200. its folded around to the small blind who has 13000, he raises to 600, i am in the big blind with AK and 12500 stack. I re raise to 1600 and he instant shoves all in, Call or fold ???????????????
     
  2. decamps decamps is offline

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    Feb 13th, 2011 (2/13/2011 7:37pm) in reply to essexcowboy

    snap
    750 
  3. Xplisit Xplisit is offline

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    Feb 13th, 2011 (2/13/2011 7:38pm) in reply to decamps

    Never thinking about folding..

    What did he show up with?
  4. Scarypooper Scarypooper is online now

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    Feb 13th, 2011 (2/13/2011 7:40pm) in reply to Xplisit

    snap call / win flip and move on / lose flip its early in a sunday no big deal
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  5. Arty_the_Cat Arty_the_Cat is offline

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    Feb 13th, 2011 (2/13/2011 7:46pm) in reply to Scarypooper

     
    Originally Posted by Scarypooper View Post

    snap call / win flip and move on / lose flip its early in a sunday no big deal

    +1
     
  6. essexcowboy essexcowboy is offline

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    Feb 13th, 2011 (2/13/2011 7:52pm) in reply to Arty_the_Cat

    SNAP CALLED AND HE HAD QQ, MISSED EVERYTHING AND OUT!!!
     
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  7. Justin Tobin Justin Tobin is offline

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    Feb 13th, 2011 (2/13/2011 9:32pm) in reply to essexcowboy

    If you don't think he'd ever do it w AQ or worse, then you should fold. No need to hope for a flip for 65 bigs at point in the tourney 100/200 blinds. Plus if you double here, you aren't really increasing your equity in the tournament by all that much.

    Sigh fold imo
  8. Scarypooper Scarypooper is online now

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    Feb 13th, 2011 (2/13/2011 9:34pm) in reply to Justin Tobin

     
    Originally Posted by Justin Tobin View Post

    If you don't think he'd ever do it w AQ or worse, then you should fold. No need to hope for a flip for 65 bigs at point in the tourney 100/200 blinds. Plus if you double here, you aren't really increasing your equity in the tournament by all that much.

    Sigh fold imo

    No.
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  9. Goooooners! Goooooners! is offline

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    Feb 13th, 2011 (2/13/2011 9:38pm) in reply to Scarypooper

    Call........ Flips are so fun, aren't they? Better luck next time. GL
  10. Justin Tobin Justin Tobin is offline

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    Feb 13th, 2011 (2/13/2011 9:40pm) in reply to Scarypooper

    No what? If you think you can accurately give him a range of QQ+, AK....then wouldn't this be a fold? We'd have only 38% equity in the pot getting odds of just under 1.3 to 1. Meaning we need at least 43% equity to make the call +ev. Obv, if you can't accurately give him this tight of a range then you have to call. Also, if people knew you were folding in this spot they would pick on you like crazy. Still if you can accurately give him that range then I think it's a fold. I guess accurately ranging him so tight is impossible so you have to call? Anyway...

    Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

    35,958,384 games 0.031 secs 1,159,947,870 games/sec

    Board:
    Dead:

    equity win tie pots won pots tied
    Hand 0: 38.824% 18.14% 20.68% 6524615 7436014.00 { AdKs }
    Hand 1: 61.176% 40.50% 20.68% 14561741 7436014.00 { AcAh, AcAs, AhAs, KcKd, KcKh, KdKh, QQ, AcKc, AhKh, AcKd, AcKh, AhKc, AhKd, AsKc, AsKd, AsKh }
    Edited By: Justin Tobin Feb 13th, 2011 at 09:49 PM
  11. essexcowboy essexcowboy is offline

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    Feb 13th, 2011 (2/13/2011 9:55pm) in reply to Justin Tobin

    poker edge was on and describing the player as loose aggressive pre flop!!!
     
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  12. Justin Tobin Justin Tobin is offline

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    Feb 13th, 2011 (2/13/2011 9:59pm) in reply to Justin Tobin

     
    Originally Posted by Justin Tobin View Post

    If you don't think he'd ever do it w AQ or worse, then you should fold. No need to hope for a flip for 65 bigs at point in the tourney 100/200 blinds. Plus if you double here, you aren't really increasing your equity in the tournament by all that much.

    Sigh fold imo

    Ok so this is probably wrong? I'm guessing if you double from 12,500 to 25,000 here you're increasing your $ev in the tourney by 50percent or more?

     
    Originally Posted by essexcowboy View Post

    poker edge was on and describing the player as loose aggressive pre flop!!!

    Ok well in that case the call was fine. GL in the next one!
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    Feb 13th, 2011 (2/13/2011 10:05pm) in reply to Goooooners!

    If you stove him 99+ your 40% / 88+ your 45% / 77+ your 55%.
    IDK is he shoving here with 77+ or worse very often?
    Doubt it.

    Edit. Just seen your post, describing him as loose aggro, this obviously changes the ranges a bit, how much more though?
    Edited By: rayfox111 Feb 13th, 2011 at 10:12 PM
  14. Sagacious Man Sagacious Man is offline

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    Feb 14th, 2011 (2/14/2011 2:55am) in reply to rayfox111

    If you fold here it's so exploitable.
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    Feb 14th, 2011 (2/14/2011 3:54am) in reply to Sagacious Man

    Can't imagine ever folding here...also a lot of the time if players are really huge here they will be 4 betting small to try and get you to spazz shove with less than premium hands...
     
  16. AmSlim22 AmSlim22 is offline

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    Feb 14th, 2011 (2/14/2011 5:14am) in reply to Picasso 2

    if u gonna 3b u should prob be making the call.
     
  17. sandman201 sandman201 is offline

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    Feb 14th, 2011 (2/14/2011 5:53am) in reply to AmSlim22

    3bet/fold sounds right here!
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