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I would imagine it is very hard, almost impossible, to achieve elite by only playing 2 tables at a time unless you are playing at the highest stakes.
Anyway, I have a question. Was going to start a new thread but it is sort of related to this.
I had a disagreement with a mate who reckons SNE is achievable even with a full time job. Total rubbish is my thinking. What do you reckon?
How the hell are you meant to achieve SNE while also working 40hrs a week at a normal job. Never gonna happen -
It's possible you just have to play really high limit sit n go's and lots of them. I work full time and still get in about 30 sit n gos a day or so. At least lastely I have been.
Originally Posted by ICE-MAN2776
I would imagine it is very hard, almost impossible, to achieve elite by only playing 2 tables at a time unless you are playing at the highest stakes.
Anyway, I have a question. Was going to start a new thread but it is sort of related to this.
I had a disagreement with a mate who reckons SNE is achievable even with a full time job. Total rubbish is my thinking. What do you reckon?
How the hell are you meant to achieve SNE while also working 40hrs a week at a normal job. Never gonna happen -
it is possible but u have to play high stakes sngs and a lot of them and still put in a ton of hours, averaging maybe 15 sngs and hour with a fee of about $15 per sng about 40hours a week will get you to supernova. so just put in 24hrs on the weekend and then the other 18 during the week. its a fuckin grind
Originally Posted by ICE-MAN2776
I would imagine it is very hard, almost impossible, to achieve elite by only playing 2 tables at a time unless you are playing at the highest stakes.
Anyway, I have a question. Was going to start a new thread but it is sort of related to this.
I had a disagreement with a mate who reckons SNE is achievable even with a full time job. Total rubbish is my thinking. What do you reckon?
How the hell are you meant to achieve SNE while also working 40hrs a week at a normal job. Never gonna happen -
i can't play 4/6 tables of HU 3 at a push.
Originally Posted by coolhandkev
My question to the OP is why do you only play 2 tables? Can your ROI go down by much at all by jumping to 4-6 tables? If you are playing 8 hours a day I assume you have a decent grasp on the game...two tables makes zero sense to me, especially if you are trying to reach SNE. If you could get even half way there with 2 tables imagine what you could do with 4 tables!
not a lot of players can/ -
I bet that by December 31st 2010, you are no were near Supernova Elite playing 50NL HU.
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Have you ever looked at your hourly rates playing 2 vs. playing 4 tables? I would venture to guess your ROI goes slightly down but your hourly rate goes slightly up...I would consider taking a look at it. As with anything practice makes perfect, I personally have no problem playing 4 HU tables, but I used to only play HU cash, now I play 6 handed. It was tough at first but you get used to it, for a higher hourly rate it may be worth it for you...
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Does anybody know how many players have made SNE so far this year? or a rough estimate on how many SNE's there will be for a year on PS
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there is like 8-10 so far this year
there is 88 on pace
and Scotty from stars said he expects there to be around 140-150
Yes you can make it with a job. I beleive DannyOhBoy has a job and Jimmyvjv...has a job and school....
800k as of last night. Classes started up again last week so I am back in mega grind mode. In addition to passing 800k, last night I also realized something. This summer, when I just had work and poker, I would get home, do nothing for a couple hours, then play for a little bit and play pretty bad. This past week, throwing in school, I work all day, go to class at night, and then rip poker right when I get home until really late. Maybe it is because I am thinking critically 18 hours a day or because I am not overthinking the situations I am in, but I am playing much better right now than I was the past couple of months.
Either way, I feel like I am starting to get close. Time to bring it on home.
thats from jimmy
anyone who wants to know whats its like read this thread....
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28.../index543.html
And as far as the VIP calculator goes, its so far off to what the actual rates are its not even really useable. Search my name a few weeks back I posted all the rates from every limit. Too lazy to search for it. -
Eh... as far as i know you get 5 VPP per dollar rake. So this would mean 15x15x5x40 VPP a week which is 45k. If we assume 4.3 weeks a month average that would get you to SNE in a bit over 5 months.
Originally Posted by pharreal87
it is possible but u have to play high stakes sngs and a lot of them and still put in a ton of hours, averaging maybe 15 sngs and hour with a fee of about $15 per sng about 40hours a week will get you to supernova. so just put in 24hrs on the weekend and then the other 18 during the week. its a fuckin grind
I'm not quite sure what you're trying to answer here, but the answer seems to be a bit off the question you quoted at least. -
wow, i fucked up on my math somewhere in there. so you could do that for 20hrs a week, or half the tables for 40hrs and be there.
Originally Posted by Mournval
Eh... as far as i know you get 5 VPP per dollar rake. So this would mean 15x15x5x40 VPP a week which is 45k. If we assume 4.3 weeks a month average that would get you to SNE in a bit over 5 months.
I'm not quite sure what you're trying to answer here, but the answer seems to be a bit off the question you quoted at least. -
OP, if i were you, i would go with high stakes play money HU SNGs and hope they fck up and start awarding FPP/VPPs again. and let you keep them this time.
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SNE = 200,000 paid in rake
That's 4,000 buy ins of 50 nl, IN RAKE........
2 tabling.
I'd bet on the Lions winning the superbowl before I'd bet on you making SNE or even supernova 2 tabling. Sorry =/.
Maybe aim for platinum star?
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thanks for the info, I was trying to google it out of curiosity the other day.
Originally Posted by J_BOYZZ
there is like 8-10 so far this year
there is 88 on pace
and Scotty from stars said he expects there to be around 140-150
anyone who wants to know whats its like read this thread....
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28.../index543.html
And as far as the VIP calculator goes, its so far off to what the actual rates are its not even really useable. Search my name a few weeks back I posted all the rates from every limit. Too lazy to search for it.
The VIP calculator is definitely way off. I started playing 60 dollar 1 tables turbos over the past week or so and their calculator says you will play 3 per hour (per table) but I don't see how these avg 20 minutes, seems to be 30 at least. A lot of times I am 25-30 minutes in and there is still 7 players let -
well sngs is easy to figure out, time has nothing to do with it
1million vpps so $60 turbo gets u 25vpps
so u need to play 40,000 avg 109 a day -
No
Originally Posted by jamie16119
basically
was wondering if it is possible to achieve SNE
in a year
playing 8hours a day HU 50nl 2 tables.
?
to give you an idea, you have to get 2,840 VPPs a day, every day, with no day off. If you take w/end off, it's 3847 VPPs a day.
my suggestion is to do it for a week and see if it's what you want to do, or if you want to play more tables and higher levels. -
Yes, I know you need to play 40,000 to reach SNE and doing those calculations are simple
Originally Posted by J_BOYZZ
well sngs is easy to figure out, time has nothing to do with it
1million vpps so $60 turbo gets u 25vpps
so u need to play 40,000 avg 109 a day
but time does have a lot to do with it because I would want to know how many hours are needed to play. Based on pokerstars calculator if you 6 table it is about 42.7 hours a week which if I decided that is what I wanted I think I could do. However, in reality you can't play 18 games an hour 6 tabling and 12 seems to be more realistic and that is closer to 60 hours a week which does not interest me at all
There are solutions to that such as playing more tables but I am definitely interested in how many hours it will take to play X amount of games which the calculator is not accurate with at all -
There are 17
Originally Posted by zeppelinzoso16
Does anybody know how many players have made SNE so far this year? or a rough estimate on how many SNE's there will be for a year on PS
I'm jimmyvjv13 on 2+2. My SN is ZepHendrix. OP, I play 24 tables of 2/4 - 5/10 NL Full Ring. I know FR is a lot different from HU but I am playing 12x the tables you proposed at higher stakes and I still have to play 4 hours a day for SNE. Your proposal will not get you anywhere close to SNE, in fact, I don't think you could get SNE if you played 24 hours a day with your plan.Originally Posted by J_BOYZZ
there is like 8-10 so far this year
there is 88 on pace
and Scotty from stars said he expects there to be around 140-150
Yes you can make it with a job. I beleive DannyOhBoy has a job and Jimmyvjv...has a job and school....
800k as of last night. Classes started up again last week so I am back in mega grind mode. In addition to passing 800k, last night I also realized something. This summer, when I just had work and poker, I would get home, do nothing for a couple hours, then play for a little bit and play pretty bad. This past week, throwing in school, I work all day, go to class at night, and then rip poker right when I get home until really late. Maybe it is because I am thinking critically 18 hours a day or because I am not overthinking the situations I am in, but I am playing much better right now than I was the past couple of months.
Either way, I feel like I am starting to get close. Time to bring it on home.
thats from jimmy
anyone who wants to know whats its like read this thread....
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28.../index543.html
And as far as the VIP calculator goes, its so far off to what the actual rates are its not even really useable. Search my name a few weeks back I posted all the rates from every limit. Too lazy to search for it.
Also, the VPP calculator from the site overestimates VPPs by a ridiculous amount. I don't know who built that thing but it is a joke, so don't use those numbers in your estimations. -
To put it in an hourly perspective if you are using Turbo SNG's they take about 40-45 minutes each lets say you play in sets and it takes you an hour total to load up your set and finish all you SNG's in a set. So if you need 109 SNG's a day and need to play about 14 tables at a time.
Originally Posted by zeppelinzoso16
Yes, I know you need to play 40,000 to reach SNE and doing those calculations are simple
but time does have a lot to do with it because I would want to know how many hours are needed to play. Based on pokerstars calculator if you 6 table it is about 42.7 hours a week which if I decided that is what I wanted I think I could do. However, in reality you can't play 18 games an hour 6 tabling and 12 seems to be more realistic and that is closer to 60 hours a week which does not interest me at all
There are solutions to that such as playing more tables but I am definitely interested in how many hours it will take to play X amount of games which the calculator is not accurate with at all
Cash Games are calculated more by hands per hour, but it also depends on your stakes and style. I think 1/2 NL FR is somewhere between .25 to .35 VPP's per hand. So you need to play between 1360 hands to 975 hands per hour per 8 hour day. Given a FR table gets you about 70-80 hands per hour you need to play around 13-18 tables at a time. There places to find VPP's per hand but the best is playing for an hour, because your style will dicated your VPP's an hour and hands per hour.
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