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sustainable roi for 300 chip 9 man sngs?

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  1. bantersaurus bantersaurus is offline

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    May 12th, 2009 (5/12/2009 7:27am)

    really can't guess what a sustainable roi in these is, at the $7 to $20 stake. got a decent idea about roi's in standard turbo sngs but not these. is the expected roi for a good player gonna be stupidly low because of the high variance?

    any help appreciated
  2. phish42O phish42O is online now

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    May 12th, 2009 (5/12/2009 8:13am) in reply to bantersaurus

    5-8%

    expect 80 buy-in swings.
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    May 12th, 2009 (5/12/2009 8:45am) in reply to phish42O

    Ive got a 9% ROI in the $3.5 after almost 1200 games and 6% after around 400 in the $7, pretty small sample size but just to give ya an idea...
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    May 12th, 2009 (5/12/2009 9:48am) in reply to bantersaurus

    at the moment 11% in the 7s after roughly 600 games, was at 13-15% after 500 games, pretty much variance
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    May 12th, 2009 (5/12/2009 11:01am) in reply to Exurtype

    didn't think those kind of roi's were realistic to aim for, good to hear
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    May 12th, 2009 (5/12/2009 12:08pm) in reply to bantersaurus

    if u grind those u gotta bethe laziest sob there is.
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    May 12th, 2009 (5/12/2009 12:29pm) in reply to ragdoll125

     
    Originally Posted by ragdoll125 View Post

    if u grind those u gotta bethe laziest sob there is.

    eh?
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    May 12th, 2009 (5/12/2009 5:56pm) in reply to bantersaurus

    why on earth would you invest time playing alot of these?
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    May 12th, 2009 (5/12/2009 6:06pm) in reply to seanwal23

     
    Originally Posted by seanwal23 View Post

    why on earth would you invest time playing alot of these?

    Uh, because you can 12-table on autopilot and make money?

    7% long-term at these is really hard to sustain. i've played almost 10k of them from the bottom end up to the 75s, and the variance is insane... case in point, in 2k9 i havent played as much as i did last year but i am 11% in 14s, better than that in 42s, and -4% in 28s. when you can run 1000 games at 8%, the next 1000 at -4%, and back, that should give you an idea of how meaningless a lot of the sample sizes are.

    If you tilt, these are not for you. if you can 12-table while pretending to be in an absolute foul-mouthed fit of rage every time you get sucked out on so the same people will make incorrect calls against you in the future because they think you are on tilt, these could be for you. Honestly, I have no idea how I still have chat, but hey, they pay you to play these things...
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    May 12th, 2009 (5/12/2009 6:14pm) in reply to zander

    u should play online slots
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    May 12th, 2009 (5/12/2009 6:35pm) in reply to zander

     
    Originally Posted by zander View Post

     
    Originally Posted by seanwal23 View Post

    why on earth would you invest time playing alot of these?

    Uh, because you can 12-table on autopilot and make money?

    7% long-term at these is really hard to sustain. i've played almost 10k of them from the bottom end up to the 75s, and the variance is insane... case in point, in 2k9 i havent played as much as i did last year but i am 11% in 14s, better than that in 42s, and -4% in 28s. when you can run 1000 games at 8%, the next 1000 at -4%, and back, that should give you an idea of how meaningless a lot of the sample sizes are.

    If you tilt, these are not for you. if you can 12-table while pretending to be in an absolute foul-mouthed fit of rage every time you get sucked out on so the same people will make incorrect calls against you in the future because they think you are on tilt, these could be for you. Honestly, I have no idea how I still have chat, but hey, they pay you to play these things...

    This pretty much sums it up. If you have amazing discipline you can 12-16 table these and play 50+ an hour. With rakeback/1-5% ROI these can be very profitable. Rakeback/hour 16 tabling the 7.50s would be higher than minimum wage in itself.
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    May 12th, 2009 (5/12/2009 6:45pm) in reply to bantersaurus

    2-6% if you think about the rakeback/small amount of time it takes to play 1 u could probably kill it.
     
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    May 12th, 2009 (5/12/2009 7:02pm) in reply to bantersaurus

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