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  1. inverse12 inverse12 is offline

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    Dec 1st, 2007 (12/1/2007 12:21pm)

    long story short, password obtained by peer on stars, money transferred to his account, most likely in process of being cashed out but definitely couldnt have received any checks yet.

    Stars will almost always correct this problem even if the balance is not in his cashier right?

    edit: for those of you wondering, yes he will for sure be getting curb stomped.
     
  2. jimjeff99 jimjeff99 is offline

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    Dec 1st, 2007 (12/1/2007 12:27pm) in reply to inverse12

    How did he obtain your PW? Did you trust the wrong person? Or did someone get you with a key logger? That sucks I hope he didnt have an epassport or its GG money.
  3. The Universe The Universe is offline

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    Dec 1st, 2007 (12/1/2007 12:27pm) in reply to inverse12

    This has happened to me in the past and they generally cannot actually retrieve your money however you can get him banhammered which provides some satisfaction.... curb-stomping is unneccesary karma is a biznizzle
     
  4. inverse12 inverse12 is offline

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    Dec 1st, 2007 (12/1/2007 12:35pm) in reply to The Universe

    Based on the timing of the transfers I know for sure that the money could not have been cashed through a bank so in theory pokerstars should still be able to recover it right?

    I am a supernova and put in at least 80 hours a week into mid-high stakes. I really can't see them not returning the money to me.

    Thoughts?
     
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  5. darkcheck_ darkcheck_ is offline

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    Dec 1st, 2007 (12/1/2007 12:52pm) in reply to inverse12

    id be working on emailing stars letting them know so tehy can do w/e in their power to freeze funds etc.

    i wouldnt curbstomp just make unknown persons life a living hell like slashing tires etc. assuming u werefriends with them

    pretty dillusional to think stars is gonna give u the $ back tho....this would just be another route for scammers to try to make bank

    who stole the $?
     
  6. DrinkingProblem DrinkingProblem is offline

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    Dec 1st, 2007 (12/1/2007 1:01pm) in reply to darkcheck_

    I def would curb stomp.
  7. netgojustin netgojustin is offline

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    Dec 1st, 2007 (12/1/2007 2:10pm) in reply to inverse12

    wow this whole situation is pretty low... is this guy your friend?

    and if he is... he may have some closet addiction or something that would drive him to do this.
  8. Willywoo Willywoo is offline

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    Dec 1st, 2007 (12/1/2007 2:18pm) in reply to DrinkingProblem

    Password heist by a peer. Your problem not stars.
  9. inverse12 inverse12 is offline

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    Dec 1st, 2007 (12/1/2007 4:15pm) in reply to darkcheck_

    He is a very low limit low volume mostly losing player (i'd assume this by the frequency at which he would approach myself and friends to exchange his cash for online funds).

    The amount in question is over $6k which likely is more than hes ever had at one time and more than enough for the stakes hes played. Hopefully stars takes these things into consideration ;/
     
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  10. jimjeff99 jimjeff99 is offline

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    Dec 1st, 2007 (12/1/2007 6:15pm) in reply to inverse12

    Yeah stars isnt going to do much. Its your problem not theirs. Some how this guy got your PW i guess.

    -Jim
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    Dec 1st, 2007 (12/1/2007 6:22pm) in reply to jimjeff99

    how did he get your password?
  12. willcutyou willcutyou is offline

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    Dec 1st, 2007 (12/1/2007 6:29pm) in reply to inverse12

    Sorry about your loss but the site can't do anything about it, from their eyes the transactions are the same as if it was your buddy and you sent him $6k and he decided to cashout - nothing they can do, because they can't be sure your not the scammer.
     
  13. inissint inissint is offline

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    Dec 1st, 2007 (12/1/2007 6:59pm) in reply to willcutyou

    why you being evasive about HOW HE GOT THE PASSWORD?

    if you GAVE him your password and he took money, i cannot how see how stars WOULD (OR SHOULD) give you the money back

    they make it VERY clear not to give out your password to ANYONE for SPECIFICALLY this reason

    besides dealing with zillions of real security issues, now they should be compelled to worry about people's friends stealing money from them after being given their password?

    sorry you got fd, but no shot stars should be responsible
     
  14. bbbbb33 bbbbb33 is offline

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    Dec 1st, 2007 (12/1/2007 7:00pm) in reply to willcutyou

    i disagree that there is nothing the site can do... as he stated he is a supernova player and stars support is always vvv helpful.
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  15. inverse12 inverse12 is offline

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    Dec 1st, 2007 (12/1/2007 7:04pm) in reply to inissint

    The always helpful and informative innissnt. Arent you a 40 year old pothead arguing with kids online?

    I don't know how my password was acquired. It likely just wasnt strong enough. I guess I never saw this coming.
     
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  16. inissint inissint is offline

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    Dec 1st, 2007 (12/1/2007 7:05pm) in reply to bbbbb33

    COULD they do somethin? OBVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVV

    but why SHOULD they? like someone said, how are they supposed to know what really happened? for all they know, OP lost a bet and told his buddy to take the money from his account, and now rethinks his situation and says f that...or OP told his buddy he would send him stars money for cash and the guy gave him the cash and now HE is trying to scam

    do not misunderstand plz...obv i SERIOUSLY DOUBT OP did anything wrong at all and it SUCKS that this happened...just saying it is not stars' responsiblity to get involved in these things

    i hope he gets the money back
     
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    Dec 1st, 2007 (12/1/2007 7:08pm) in reply to bbbbb33

    no1 is debating how helpful stars is with regards to their players...but to believe theyre gonna give back the $ stolen bc ur password wasnt strong enough or w/e is pretty naive

    gl man hopefully youve alrady filled stars in with everything detail wise, not to sound childish or anything but if its a kid and u somehow know him, its not too hard to find his address and address the subject with his rents altho that just sounds weird saying its what im bout to do with a kid who i used to be REALLY good friends with and hes just blown me off for 600....not even about the $ to me altho 6k it would be....

    its about the fuckin principle
     
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    Dec 1st, 2007 (12/1/2007 7:25pm) in reply to inverse12

    Isnt this the same as being hacked?
    I thought people got funds back from most hackings?
    Why is everyone acting like its the OPs fault he had a friend that fvcked him so lets all flame him!
  19. inverse12 inverse12 is offline

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    Dec 1st, 2007 (12/1/2007 7:31pm) in reply to bassmaster

    Funds frozen, for some reason I have to fax them a copy of my drivers license and they will redeposit the funds into my account. +1 for pokerstars securtity department.
     
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  20. stevem1267 stevem1267 is online now

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    Dec 1st, 2007 (12/1/2007 7:41pm) in reply to inissint

    stupid comment. of course they should do something. he says he never gave the guy the password. so if someone figures out your password inissint and is in the process of withdrawing money, stars shouldnt get involved????
  21. bukahkiparty bukahkiparty is offline

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    Dec 1st, 2007 (12/1/2007 7:54pm) in reply to inverse12

    Glad you got your money back. But for some reason? you would have to fax your ID's. Why do you think they would have you do that? WTF - Your friend obviously has a problem.
  22. computerb computerb is offline

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    Dec 1st, 2007 (12/1/2007 7:54pm) in reply to bassmaster

    A hacker logs into your account from an IP not associated with the account. If there is no previous association with the new IP then the site can try to freeze that account until an explanation can be made. If there is a past association between the accounts and you dispute the transaction it's your word against that of the thief. This would be further obscured if the thief had been given access to your account previously from his IP.

    Bottom line is that you are responsible for the protection of your password. I think there may be more to this little drama than has been given us so far. The sites do not give people back funds stolen via hackings. If they have evidence of hacking the best they can do is freeze those funds that have yet to be laundered.

    A good example would be if I were to finish a tourney for a friend because something came up. I would have his password and could transfer all his monies to my account or dump them my partner in crime. If he complained to the site and said I was a thief, all I would have to say is no I'm not. Tough love here folks. Protect those passwords.

    Getting popcorn now.
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    Dec 1st, 2007 (12/1/2007 9:19pm) in reply to inverse12

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