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theres no skill in poker. its a game of luck

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  1. oscar 1 1 oscar 1 1 is offline

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    Oct 4th, 2007 (10/4/2007 12:10pm)

    lol the next time some douchebag says this to u .tell them to watch the heads up match between eg hervin and that 23 year old guy they call the serb,in the wpt foxwoods classic.after they watch that there will be no doubt in there mind thats its a game thats 90 percent skill. that to me made the biggest point that poker is a skillfull game and not luck.cus im so sick of listening to this bullshit luck vs skill
  2. junsie junsie is offline

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    Oct 4th, 2007 (10/4/2007 12:14pm) in reply to oscar 1 1

    you tell em oscar
  3. Numskull21 Numskull21 is offline

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    Oct 4th, 2007 (10/4/2007 12:14pm) in reply to oscar 1 1

    I agree. Also the heads up match between Ryan Daut and Isaac Haxton was great and proves this as well.
  4. KMan1564 KMan1564 is offline

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    Oct 4th, 2007 (10/4/2007 12:16pm) in reply to Numskull21

    aren't both of them skilled?
  5. oscar 1 1 oscar 1 1 is offline

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    Oct 4th, 2007 (10/4/2007 12:27pm) in reply to Numskull21

    numskull what match r u talking about ive never seen it
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  6. oscar 1 1 oscar 1 1 is offline

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    Oct 4th, 2007 (10/4/2007 12:30pm) in reply to KMan1564

    and no eg harvit is not very skilled at all imo.he was just a limping bluffer . i made my wife watch the hu match and told her if the serb didnt win id do all the housework 4 a month. ty serb and thank god ive found a way 2 gamble that skill is almost the whole game
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    Oct 4th, 2007 (10/4/2007 12:30pm) in reply to oscar 1 1

    I think it was last years Poker stars PCA. Yes, both players have skill, but the way both played heads up was amazing. 3 betting with complete air a few times. Definitely the best I have ever seen.
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    Oct 4th, 2007 (10/4/2007 12:35pm) in reply to Numskull21

    nice ill have 2 check it out.the reason i posted this was because of that douchebags article about the rake winning only.and my boss keeps telling me ill always go broke cus of gambling i just cant pound it in his hardhead that its skill glggl
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  9. dippydough dippydough is offline

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    Oct 4th, 2007 (10/4/2007 12:38pm) in reply to oscar 1 1

    are any of the old travel channel WPT events online anywhere? i've seen some EPT's on pokertube but there are no WPT's on there.
     
  10. Fife19 Fife19 is offline

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    Oct 4th, 2007 (10/4/2007 12:41pm) in reply to dippydough

    www.thepokerbay.org (I'm pretty sure thats the correct link) Its a torrent site, which I hate... But they have most if not all of the WPT episodes
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    Oct 4th, 2007 (10/4/2007 1:11pm) in reply to oscar 1 1

    Not sure if the guy whose pocket Aces was cracked by QQ of Hevad Khan on National TV at the WSOP would agree with, neither would Joe Sebok from 2007 UB Aruba Poker tourney:

    Joe Sebok played with the heart of a champion today. His back was against the wall, he never held cards, he was always dominated, but somehow, someway, he did manage to last into the third level. In all honesty I have never seen a performance like the one that young Sebok put on today.
    He ended up getting it in with AA on a flop of AAK, only to run smack into the monster draw of some knuckleheaded monkeyface, who held the QT. The turn was kind to Sebok, delivering a blank, in the form of the 8, but he knew it was coming, as traditionally in this young superstar's career, any hand containing an 8 was simply a foreshadowing of dark things to come.

    Much like the Nazgul, from Lord of the Rings fame, would always bring death and pain to the one it found, so did the river bring horrid, acrid, burning death to the strikingly handsome Sebok. That's right, ladies and germs, the river was the sickest card of them all...the J.
  12. oscar 1 1 oscar 1 1 is offline

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    Oct 4th, 2007 (10/4/2007 1:25pm) in reply to kk405

    so wahts your point? that u have a manlove for joe sebok?
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  13. peterpjames peterpjames is offline

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    Oct 4th, 2007 (10/4/2007 1:31pm) in reply to kk405

    If you read further down on the page you see that the Sebok hand you posted here is a joke.
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    Oct 4th, 2007 (10/4/2007 1:42pm) in reply to kk405

    Just cause you occasionally have to gamble in poker does not mean that it's all luck, just as it is not all skill. And there is more to luck than having an underdog crack a strong hand, if you raise before the flop with rags and only get called by the blinds, that is a lucky situation, if they check to you, and you bet, and they fold, that is some very good luck, I think most people would think they used their skill to take that pot down, but in my opinion they were lucky.

    Either way, I love playing against people who complain about the luck factor in poker, not because I win or lose more or less often against these players, but usually they are the ones that make some stupid comment about how I'm playing that, well, makes them look stupid. For instance, in one marathon cash game session with some buddies on a camping trip, I was playing the tightest poker of my life, but my opponents kept complaining about how loose I was playing and how lucky I was getting. Go figure.
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    Oct 4th, 2007 (10/4/2007 1:48pm) in reply to Shufly

    Of course HU is the most skilled NLHE there is. The more people involved the more luck involved, i'm suring this is a well known though, but yes in a HU game/SNG/Tourney the more skilled player will usually break through the variance much more to be the winner.
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