pokerstars Game #49660234593: Tournament #2010090030, $500+$30 USD Hold'em No Limit - Match Round I, Level I (25/50) - 2010/09/15 14:08:02 ET
Table '2010090030 66' 10-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: ureeek (7500 in chips)
Seat 2: feltsofdream (7225 in chips)
Seat 4: icallseat3 (7393 in chips)
Seat 5: inissint (7425 in chips)
Seat 6: digooo_poffo (9700 in chips)
Seat 7: USCphildo (7275 in chips)
Seat 8: peter bosen (7514 in chips)
Seat 9: djbr23 (6018 in chips)
Seat 10: CallMeIdiot (7450 in chips)
CallMeIdiot: posts small blind 25
ureeek: posts big blind 50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to icallseat3 [2h 2s]
feltsofdream: folds
icallseat3: raises 57 to 107
inissint: folds
digooo_poffo: folds
USCphildo: folds
peter bosen: folds
djbr23: raises 243 to 350
CallMeIdiot: folds
ureeek: folds
icallseat3: calls 243
*** FLOP *** [Kc 2d Qh]
icallseat3: checks
djbr23: bets 250
icallseat3: calls 250
*** TURN *** [Kc 2d Qh] [4c]
icallseat3: checks
djbr23: checks
*** RIVER *** [Kc 2d Qh 4c] [9h]
icallseat3: bets 750
djbr23: raises 4668 to 5418 and is all-in
icallseat3???

fold

its not a line that he would take as a bluff, which means his range is gonna be valuey stuff like QQ, KK, AA, KQ typically. however i dont see him bombing river with AA or kq especially if he checks the turn for pot control. if he picked up clubs on the turn he may barrel sometimes, but could just check behind something like AQc, if thats the case hes not gonna turn it into a bluff on the river. there is always a slight chance he has JT and was 3betting you light beacuse hes on the button

if his range is literally only KQ, QQ and KK on the river then its a snapcall, butttt because i think jamming river with KQ is kindaaaa thin i dont think he has KQ that much on the river

ill go over my thought process and what I did after I see more feedback

For phuck's sake villain, bet the phucking turn. It's so hard to picture him doing this with a nut hand....I always think this is some huge leveling war that you didn't c/r the flop or do anything on the turn so there's no way you can have a set except 22, and you can't have KQ (since he bet so small on the flop)....however, he coulda bet small on the flop to induce you to c/r and therefore make the pot bigger without scaring u off by 3 barreling. So confused if he actually bets the flop with 99 or even 3bs pre with it. Also makes me want to think he turned something random into a bluff, but I just hate calling here for some reason without more info. Flip a coin...call and lose and regrind 30bbs or fold and have huge stack. Also thoughts on check calling the river since JT is also another hand in his range and his line makes no sense?

 

Originally Posted by ShOrTy25

bef99hwk is the only guy that ck calls a set down ;)

Touche...I over analyze every situation and figured it was the only way I was getting any value (looks the weakest), and in rare case you actually had a 5x in ur range I didn't spew off huge stack. Doesn't matter tho losing as a 95%+ favorite as well as 2 outed on day 4 pre bubble /rant & hijack.

 

Originally Posted by bef99hwk

Touche...I over analyze every situation and figured it was the only way I was getting any value (looks the weakest), and in rare case you actually had a 5x in ur range I didn't spew off huge stack. Doesn't matter tho losing as a 95%+ favorite as well as 2 outed on day 4 pre bubble /rant & hijack.

well fwiw, u got the max value out of it because i had jack high and was 3 barrelling either way with how the board played out. so, results oriented victory

in before someone says c/c river

doubt he has KQ here

I lean toward a call for two reasons ... it's an unknown in a WCOOP and it's a shootout.

 

Originally Posted by Round42

I lean toward a call for two reasons ... it's an unknown in a WCOOP and it's a shootout.

True. He could very well be spazzing with AK.

check calling here seems pretty awful, you'd be losing too much value. This is definitely a really gross spot, i remember watching it and being like wtf? he has TJ? I wondered what you were thinking about. I probably call, but i dont really mind a fold. He probably has TJ or 99 there a lot more than a bluff.

 

Originally Posted by stsitron

I folded to his shove just seemed like he had the JT or maybe 99. I didn't think he would bluff in this spot because its likely I could have it here but maybe he knew I couldn't call unless i had it and made a great bluff.

obviously in hindsite I wish I had just ck/ called

in hindsight you should really wish you had just bet/called, like wtf is he repping? Im not even gonna look but if you opr him I bet he has some retarded bustout %s and loses early way more than normal just from looking at his line here. Like he has to have complete sauce as played everytime unless he 3bets 99 pre and I doubt he does and even if he does he still has it like 15% of time.

 

Originally Posted by RUBINH

You should most certainly call. You're ahead of almost everything, villain can easily be value-betting worse or bluffing. Also highly doubt he chooses that sizing pre with KK/QQ and checks back the turn. TBH if you're beat it's almost certainly J10, but really, he could easily have KQ or air here.

"You're ahead of almost everything, villain can easily be value-betting worse or bluffing"

mate ffs come on... value - betting worse, does this make sense?
obv c/c is best line, not really sure what he is repping here, did u opr opponent?

just to throw it out there. I think he could possibly be turning jj into a bluff here. I just dont see the villain 3 betting j10 pre very often.