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Thoughts on this live hand?

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  1. WarGawd WarGawd is offline

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    Jul 23rd, 2010 (7/23/2010 7:43pm)

    Played a 40-man $80 MTT last nite at the local casino. At the time of this hand we've done maybe 2 orbits at the final table. I made the FT as the short stack, but managed triple up on the first hand in the BB. In the hand just prior to this one, I shoved QJs UTG for ~9k with blinds at 1k/2k/300a, no callers.

    So now I'm BB, UTG+1 open shoves for ~8k, folded to chip leader in the cutoff, who iso shoves all in with 2nd chip leader yet to act in the SB. Button and SB both fold.

    UTG+1 is an older guy who had raised one previous time with no callers, and subsequently talked about folding 88 if he was reraised. Cutoff is younger, but despite being CL, he hadn't been abusing the table in the 20 or so hands at the FT.

    There are 9 left, 6 get paid, I have 99 in the BB with about 13k behind, and I'll be SB next hand.

    WWYD?
    Edited By: WarGawd Jul 23rd, 2010 at 07:51 PM
    Reason: corrected remaining chips
  2. jsagan77 jsagan77 is offline

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    Jul 23rd, 2010 (7/23/2010 7:44pm) in reply to WarGawd

    insta fold...

    Just my preference... I'd rather be shoving than calling with it and you can still make people fold in a live donkament with 5 bb's... I know that's terrible, but it's true...

     
    Originally Posted by WarGawd View Post

    Played a 40-man $80 MTT last nite at the local casino. At the time of this hand we've done maybe 2 orbits at the final table. I made the FT as the short stack, but managed triple up on the first hand in the BB. In the hand just prior to this one, I shoved QJs UTG for ~9k with blinds at 1k/2k/300a, no callers.

    So now I'm BB, UTG+1 open shoves for ~8k, folded to chip leader in the cutoff, who iso shoves all in with 2nd chip leader yet to act in the SB. Button and SB both fold.

    UTG+1 is an older guy who had raised one previous time with no callers, and subsequently talked about folding 88 if he was reraised. Cutoff is younger, but despite being CL, he hadn't been abusing the table in the 20 or so hands at the FT.

    There are 9 left, 6 get paid, I have 99 in the BB with about 11k behind, and I'll be SB next hand.

    WWYD?

    Edited By: jsagan77 Jul 23rd, 2010 at 07:57 PM
  3. Fishfry Fishfry is offline

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    Jul 23rd, 2010 (7/23/2010 7:47pm) in reply to jsagan77

    I can't fathom doing anything other than folding here
  4. Jwilkinson Jwilkinson is offline

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    Jul 23rd, 2010 (7/23/2010 8:51pm) in reply to Fishfry

     
    Originally Posted by Fishfry View Post

    I can't fathom doing anything other than folding here

    so snap folding is out of the question?
  5. coolhandkev coolhandkev is offline

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    Jul 23rd, 2010 (7/23/2010 8:59pm) in reply to Jwilkinson

    Nice structure to that tourney! I call and it's a pretty easy one in my opinion.
  6. Passiveplay Passiveplay is offline

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    Jul 23rd, 2010 (7/23/2010 9:32pm) in reply to coolhandkev

    Doubt I fold but what are the stack sizes of the CL and other players at the table?
     
  7. okse54 okse54 is offline

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    Jul 23rd, 2010 (7/23/2010 10:05pm) in reply to Passiveplay

    only way this might be a fold would be because of ICM implications, purely cEV this should be a pretty easy call vs any 2 players who have a little bit of a clue of what they are doing

    taking into account that live players usually suck and arent as wide here as most online players and the fact that its final table close to the money this may or may not be a fold, idk
     
  8. ScottBrewr99 ScottBrewr99 is offline

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    Jul 23rd, 2010 (7/23/2010 11:14pm) in reply to okse54

    I would call because 99 is my favorite hand
  9. thereraise thereraise is offline

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    Jul 23rd, 2010 (7/23/2010 11:28pm) in reply to ScottBrewr99

    its a fold in a standard daily live tourney......

    Most have no idea about proper shoving ranges so they both prob have a real hand. At the very best you are against 4 over cards and have to fade alot, but you are prob behind anyways.

    Sense most live players are not shoving properly they are not calling wide enough either, making a future open shove better than calling off your stack.
    Edited By: thereraise Jul 23rd, 2010 at 11:28 PM
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