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Might be a bit of a stupid question I play very low stakes usually $1mtt's but is it actually worth three betting in these? I tend to find even when I have a big pair I get that many callers that unless I hit the nuts on the flop it can be very difficult to assess where you are, I often get unfortunate and run into low straights etc against my AA, KK.
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i think you have to play abc poker in these. can't make too many moves cuz no one understands them anyway so -ev. That's my mistake. You have to run good, that's all. volume volume volume.
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I have just decided to build a bankroll for MTTs starting at $1 I was wondering the same thing I have been trying to bet scare cards like floating the flop with draws on it and betting when they hit and getting called by bottom pair, do they even know what I am trying to rep?? I have heard this play ABC thing alot what does it actually mean like get in cheap flop a hand a just value bet it and fold everything else i am a bit unclear any advise would be appreciated
Edited By: CardGenius May 11th, 2011 at 05:05 PM
thanks T.
also do MTT sngs play the same as MTTs in micro/low limits and is it the same BRM I just wondered as there are not too many MTTs running all the time??
in response to not bluffing in $1 MTTs
like at all?? not even semi bluffs?? how is it possible to go about building a big stack?? -
It's probably not worth 3-betting light, except maybe near the end of the tournament when there is scared money. You should definitely be 3-betting your big hands for value. If you find yourself getting multiple callers, then bet bigger or even just 3-bet jam.
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I've been trying 3-bet jam lately and although sometimes I'm still getting suckouts/everyone folding it seems to be working quite well, just didn't know if that was the right thing to be doing! Thanks
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Provide some examples maybe? As Tyson said, you should be 3betting for value or really only 3 betting light when you sense weakness late in a tourney. Early and mid-stages though you should be playing the goods and 3b over-jamming with your stronger hands if you notice the table is calling light.
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There is not much point in 'making moves' and 3 betting light down here in microville. Just play ABC and bet for VALUE VALUE VALUE!!!
Your EDGE in Small Stakes MTTs will come from --> MAKING FEWER MISTAKES <-- then your opponents. Also, there is not much point in being deceptive as no one will be paying attention.
One more thing to keep in mind. SOLID FUNDAMENTALS!!!! it's crucial in Micro Stakes Land. -
Good advice.
Originally Posted by tyson219
It's probably not worth 3-betting light, except maybe near the end of the tournament when there is scared money. You should definitely be 3-betting your big hands for value. If you find yourself getting multiple callers, then bet bigger or even just 3-bet jam.
Main problem I find, is you havn't a clue what hand they might have most of the time! -
Yes you should be 3betting with your premium hands, you also should try 3betting aggresive players in position to get the pot heads up. Once you get it heads up in position vs the original raiser you can fire a cbet of around 1/3 pot to 2/3 the pot depending on how wet or dry the board is. If you have a pot sized bet left after the 3bet preflop you can just shove all in on almost any flop.
If the player calls you on the flop you can usually have somewhat of an idea of what kind of hand range the villain has and act accordingly. Gl to you in the micros and don't forget to also be value you betting more in these also. -
3-bet for value mainly.There are lots of players at the micro levels who, early on, will not fold pre when they raise (they're "committed" you see) and will proceed to call you all the way if they catch a piece of the flop. Just play straightforward ABC poker, ie. no fancy, deceptive plays or big bluffs.
In later stages when the average stack is much lower, you can 3-bet a lot wider. Many players at these levels will raise/fold with 10-20BB as they lack fundamentals and are generally scared money at this point in the tourney. -
A quick example was last night in a $1 Rush tourney I was sitting on the button with AKs, there was a min raise from early position and two callers, I reraised to around 6xBB, SB Called (1/2 of his stack) as did all the other three, flop came - K Q 6... All in immediately from the SB (who I'd seen on another table playing very loose with 2 2 on a high board) the other three fold, I call and he has Q6........my hand doesn't improve...SIGH!!
Originally Posted by Flopnuts1
Provide some examples maybe? As Tyson said, you should be 3betting for value or really only 3 betting light when you sense weakness late in a tourney. Early and mid-stages though you should be playing the goods and 3b over-jamming with your stronger hands if you notice the table is calling light.
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Edited By: Sdanby May 12th, 2011 at 11:45 AMyour 3bet is far too small, try like 10xbbOriginally Posted by Cookymonster198
A quick example was last night in a $1 Rush tourney I was sitting on the button with AKs, there was a min raise from early position and two callers, I reraised to around 6xBB, SB Called (1/2 of his stack) as did all the other three, flop came - K Q 6... All in immediately from the SB (who I'd seen on another table playing very loose with 2 2 on a high board) the other three fold, I call and he has Q6........my hand doesn't improve...SIGH!!
edit: or if you have <25bbs just jam -
OK guys, here is somewhere I feel I can help, been playing the micro last years so my 2cents are :
Edited By: Lenail May 12th, 2011 at 01:04 PM
- As 56off56 said ABC poker, this is all what it takes to beat the micro IMO
I like the few comments on widering the range, I feel it is correct. Cooky, I strongly feel that you can do the same with the bet sizing. ABC poker rules mean put your money when you have a hand and as the micro players make more mistake you can exploit theses mistakes by making them pay more, sometimes a lot more. In your last example, I would use this tool by shoving pre, you would be amazed how many AT or KQ will come along. The shove pre is often seen as a weak play in micros, sometimes I don't play a hand for 3-4 rounds and shove my KK to double up... easy game.
- Only bluff pressure when there is a money gap and vs certain player
I nearly ship a big 1$ ME in January where (very) late in the tourney I found that pressure was very, veeeery +EV, nearly nobody had reraised me, so the few time they did it was easy to even let AK go because of the steal value they were. It depends on the player tendencies of course, you can find tables where one or two good LAG reg are in doing the same thing... You need to take this in account.
These are the 2 main points I have in head after reading this thread, many many more tools are very useful for the micro. Cooky, feel free to PM if you like to share about this, I can provide you some interesting HH, I guess the one of the 1$ ME is a good one.
GL P5ers !!
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