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Tilt 65K guarantee, A hand with Gigabet

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  1. dess66 dess66 is offline

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    Mar 14th, 2008 (3/14/2008 1:55pm)

    Still far away from the bubble.

    We both played, quiet, ABC poker since the start.

    No real hand involved us together since the beginning, even if he is 2 to my left.

    Full Tilt Poker Game #5571975758: $65,000 Guarantee (40767947), Table 75 - 60/120 - No Limit Hold'em - 21:34:53 ET - 2008/03/09
    Seat 1: Gigabet (6,105)
    Seat 2: Sleepy_Hippo (3,185)
    Seat 3: DESS66 (5,220)
    Seat 4: FLYINGCBAR (10,620)
    Seat 5: MikeFSU (11,694)
    Seat 6: The Vuk (2,518)
    Seat 8: BigRM (4,940)
    Seat 9: dank stax (2,985)
    DESS66 posts the small blind of 60
    FLYINGCBAR posts the big blind of 120
    The button is in seat #2
    halvytime23 sits down
    halvytime23 adds 4,775
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to DESS66 [Th Kh]
    MikeFSU calls 120
    The Vuk has 15 seconds left to act
    The Vuk calls 120
    BigRM folds
    dank stax folds
    Gigabet has 15 seconds left to act
    Gigabet calls 120
    Sleepy_Hippo folds
    DESS66 calls 60
    FLYINGCBAR checks
    *** FLOP *** [Qc 5h Jh]
    DESS66 checks
    FLYINGCBAR checks
    MikeFSU checks
    The Vuk checks
    Gigabet checks
    *** TURN *** [Qc 5h Jh] [8c]
    DESS66 checks
    FLYINGCBAR checks
    MikeFSU checks
    The Vuk checks
    Gigabet bets 480
    DESS66 calls 480
    FLYINGCBAR folds
    MikeFSU folds
    The Vuk folds
    *** RIVER *** [Qc 5h Jh 8c] [Qh]
    DESS66 has 15 seconds left to act
    DESS66 bets 840
    Gigabet has 15 seconds left to act
    Gigabet raises to 5,505, and is all in

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  2. Diggs Diggs is offline

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    Mar 14th, 2008 (3/14/2008 2:28pm) in reply to dess66

    Looks like 8's full to me or possibly 5's full. I doubt he's doing this with a worse flush. I'd fold.
  3. Synappzz Synappzz is offline

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    Mar 14th, 2008 (3/14/2008 2:40pm) in reply to Diggs

    I'd have a hard time folding, but to quote SCT "Would he ever do this with a worse hand than yours..blah blah...your hand is just a bluff catcher..blah blah"

    Then he'd most likely say easy fold.
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    Mar 14th, 2008 (3/14/2008 2:40pm) in reply to Diggs

    i dont think he ever has 5s full or qj here checking thru the flop 4 ways. qq jj no chance. would he limp q8 and then check through the flop, pretty doubtful. its either 88 or the ace hi flush draw that id be worried about, with the A hi flush draw he would have had to check back on the flop and then bet the turn, which is possible but also a reach. i think its 88 or nothing. and with your hand being pretty underrepped and a lot of scare cards out there to try and push you off a hand + being up against thinking player like gigabet, i would call.
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  5. Diggs Diggs is offline

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    Mar 14th, 2008 (3/14/2008 2:58pm) in reply to gboro780

    Do you really think the OP's hand is underepped here? It looks like exactly what it is to me....a flush draw that hit the river.
  6. RollinFish RollinFish is offline

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    Mar 14th, 2008 (3/14/2008 3:05pm) in reply to dess66

    Flopping the nuts and failing to bet is a problem. As played, I fold. Gigabet isn't bluffing this river, and he isn't raising without a better hand. 88 is the only thing that makes sense to me.
  7. akajeff akajeff is offline

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    Mar 14th, 2008 (3/14/2008 3:09pm) in reply to RollinFish

    checks behind on the flop with 88...
  8. gboro780 gboro780 is offline

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    Mar 14th, 2008 (3/14/2008 3:14pm) in reply to Diggs

    iguess youre right in hindsight... i just remember thinking i would have played this big a draw faster, and that he only bet like 1/2 pot on river.
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    Mar 14th, 2008 (3/14/2008 3:17pm) in reply to RollinFish

    Bet flop uno vez
  10. Genetikfreak Genetikfreak is offline

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    Mar 14th, 2008 (3/14/2008 3:26pm) in reply to gboro780

    why do you rule out QJ to me it still seems possible that he checks his 2 pair bc the board is so draw heavy for pot control and to see if turn is a blank. when evey1 cheks turn he prob figures nobody flopped the nuts and can bet for value... Qj in position in multiway pot why not? looks alot like 88 though

    You show strengh on riv and he shoves, indicates he most likely has it
  11. Maits10 Maits10 is offline

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    Mar 14th, 2008 (3/14/2008 4:00pm) in reply to candida

    It's 88 for Giga or nothing. He's probably not checking the A high flush draw on the flop and betting the turn, and he's not checking 555 on that board on the flop with all the draws out there.

    I'd probably call and get shown 8's full of Q's.
  12. dess66 dess66 is offline

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    Mar 14th, 2008 (3/14/2008 4:04pm) in reply to Genetikfreak

    "why do you rule out QJ to me it still seems possible that he checks his 2 pair bc the board is so draw heavy for pot control and to see if turn is a blank."

    That i could agree

    "when evey1 cheks turn he prob figures nobody flopped the nuts and can bet for value... Qj in position in multiway pot why not?"

    That too.

    But here my problem is with the bet sizing. With QJ, in his position, with 4 people still around and his stack, i think i would make at least a pot size bet (maybe even overbet it, something i rarely do), to define clearly my hand right now and prevent draw since i'm probably good now.

    480 is not bad, but when one call, all the others could join with any weird draw and i cant see 1 card i would feel confortable on the river.

    I don't know.

    "looks alot like 88 though"

    Thats the problem, the 480 bet size look more correct and appropriate with that. ;(
     
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  13. Wawa711 Wawa711 is offline

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    Mar 14th, 2008 (3/14/2008 5:11pm) in reply to dess66

    couldnt u also include 9h Th in his range, or do u think he would have bet the flop with that? i could def see him checking that.

    But i agree it could also just as easily be 88
     
  14. luckboxpoke luckboxpoke is offline

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    Mar 14th, 2008 (3/14/2008 5:17pm) in reply to dess66

    I put Gigabet on one of 3 hands...all of which you beat...your leadout bet is beggin for a raise...imo....i think he has JTc, QT, or KQ....will he post back???
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    Mar 14th, 2008 (3/14/2008 6:19pm) in reply to dess66

    you are beat more often here than a red headed step child
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  16. Diggs Diggs is offline

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    Mar 14th, 2008 (3/14/2008 6:21pm) in reply to luckboxpoke

    Gigabet isn't shipping any of those hands on that river....I hardly doubt he's even calling with any of them. JMO.
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    Mar 14th, 2008 (3/14/2008 7:03pm) in reply to dess66

    lead flop, lead turn, hand is much easier to play.
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  18. Stupor_Mundi Stupor_Mundi is offline

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    Mar 14th, 2008 (3/14/2008 7:38pm) in reply to dess66

    Could you bet the flop or raise the turn maybe? You got yourself in this situation by underplaying your hand and then overvaluing it on the end. Sure, in this case, playing a huge draw loose on the flop may have put you in a race situation with all the money on the flop, but this would be preferable to this spot. As played, fold, I think he setted the flop with 55 and filled the river, though I have no idea how Giga would not bet this flop with so many draws out there.

    Edit, 88 would be another possibility here, but it's the same thing, fold. Also more likely as it explains the flop check, though I don't know whether he would raise MP with that.
  19. I Fold I Fold is offline

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    Mar 14th, 2008 (3/14/2008 7:45pm) in reply to dess66

    Gigabet is nuts, I think he is messing with your skull.
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    Mar 14th, 2008 (3/14/2008 8:21pm) in reply to kice32

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