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let me preface this by saying i have no noble objectives/dilusions... nor any profound suggestions/advice. but come the fcuk on - this is my industry and my business and i m not about to sit quitely while it all goes to the crapper and dies a slow death.
multiaccounting/cheating is threatening to kill the entire industry. obvious enough. most top pros prob feel they are pretty much losing money by not MA ing tourneys considering the number of people doing it, the ease of it, and the minimal risk of getting caught. i certainly cant blame them.
personally i d like to thank the egos of many for needing to brag about your accomplishments to get you caught and expose the true depths of the problem.
all this exposed cheating diminishes the occassional player base/new player base. plus we are all paranoid and speculative over too many results. it is infuriating to see something that is cheating/ could be cheating on a daily basis. even/especially from respected people in the game.
the field at the wsop is so ridic soft , and all these donkeys would come out and donate if they trusted online poker. but they dont . and rightfully so it seems.
i ve been thinking of solutions to this problem non-stop for about 3 weeks. its no easy task. and i certainly havent stumpled upon the solution.
but, in reading/learning about the various exchanges and how they are regulated.....i couldnt help but think of parallels to the poker world. the board that manages the exchange gets a piece of every trade the traders make on the floor. in theory, since the trading rooms have been automated, the two highstake worlds are pretty similar. the traders are the gamblers and the board is the poker room. but no trader would cheat the board lest be done for life trading for life. (see wallstreet)
the point is this : regulate it or say bye to online poker.
regulation by the pokerroms who NEED to come together. have a board whose number 1 priority is security....bring on biometrics......fuckin webcam me while i play or something.....i dont care.
i was irrate to see mrcasino making a run last night and i antisweated him with passion. i would have been sick and the community would have erupted if the dude actually won. suspensions should be across poker rooms. we shouldnt tolerate cheating nor should anyone with interest in its future. im not saying ban him for life, but there has to be a way to truly suspend someone's ability to play. then they'll learn. and more importantly others will too.
I dont want to jerry McGuire myself or anything but shit, i dont want to get a real job anytime soon. -
nice brag posts
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Norfman all this coming from the guy who just recently changed his full tilt screename from onefreekingtime to doctorhowser...... Comeon man how can you complain about this stuff reallly???
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not sure how someone could disagree with your stance on the issue
but there really isnt a way to fix it
there will always be ways around it
you can ban anyone you want
but there will always be a way to get a new account under a new name, address, etc.
it's just a risk you play when you play online
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Is it really so difficult NOT to cheat?
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first of all who are you? Secondly, all I did was provide an example of how to eliminate this stuff...
Originally Posted by ANTIHERO
No way im giving my SS over the internet and no player transfers is redic, I know for one I wouldnt play on a site that did not allow transfers.
Also, sorry to burst your bubble, but when its regulated Social Security #'s will be mandatory for cashouts and will be proof as taxing documents for the IRS -
LOL who am i?? Do you really want to know, its not like you know me or anything. I could ask the same about you but i see you on the RAIL a lot so im familiar with ur sn. I think people just need to face the fact that there are lots of rules that there is no way of enforcing in online play. Have you ever heard of identity theft......? Require ss #s and im sure that will increase
Originally Posted by MarkFSU1
first of all who are you? Secondly, all I did was provide an example of how to eliminate this stuff...Originally Posted by ANTIHERO
No way im giving my SS over the internet and no player transfers is redic, I know for one I wouldnt play on a site that did not allow transfers.
Also, sorry to burst your bubble, but when its regulated Social Security #'s will be mandatory for cashouts and will be proof as taxing documents for the IRS -
Ok thanks for the reply man I wasn't saying that you were Multi accounting in same tourny, just thought ur post was a little hipocritical. Sorry to hear that you dont have rakeback.
Originally Posted by theNorfman
lol.......tilt closed my 'onefreekingtime' account.......it was opened cause i wanted rakeback and then it was closed. the second i started playing on the doctorhowser account i switched in my profile.
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So because he changed his screen name, this makes him a cheater? Norfman is one of the most stand up guys in the online poker world today. Comments like are just idiotic.
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Are you saying that you want to restrict the forum to people who play online poker only? Maybe i dont post my screenames cuz i have like 12 on each site.lololololololol
Originally Posted by MarkFSU1
My who are you comment was to antihero, really wish P5 would ban ppl who run around on here causing drama but dont have Screen names in their profile...should be mandatory to have poker screen names in your profile to post in PD
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I think Mark's suggestion is quite logical, actually.
Originally Posted by ANTIHERO
Are you saying that you want to restrict the forum to people who play online poker only? Maybe i dont post my screenames cuz i have like 12 on each site.lolololololololOriginally Posted by MarkFSU1
My who are you comment was to antihero, really wish P5 would ban ppl who run around on here causing drama but dont have Screen names in their profile...should be mandatory to have poker screen names in your profile to post in PD
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I agree here as well...
Originally Posted by lockdownpokah
having ss# makes sense
but i dont see how eliminating p2p transfer would do anything but hurt poker
what about the whole I.D camera or whatever?? why couldnt they monitor who was playing on what computer. It could be as simple as when you log onto the site with your screen-name and password you would also have to log in your web-cam?
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I talk to so many players live who don't trust online poker and these people are the mosnter fishes we want playing online. I've always told them online poker can be trusted and now i can't even do that. they were right. Makes me think i need to be planning of life without online poker in 3-5 years.
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this is goin redic insane far with it. FFS who wants a camera on them when they are playing. Not people who see poker and porn as a dinamic duo. If you people want a less of a chance of being cheated play live with all people that you know
Originally Posted by jnelson214
I agree here as well...Originally Posted by lockdownpokah
having ss# makes sense
but i dont see how eliminating p2p transfer would do anything but hurt poker
what about the whole I.D camera or whatever?? why couldnt they monitor who was playing on what computer. It could be as simple as when you log onto the site with your screen-name and password you would also have to log in your web-cam?
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you really sound like you are one of the multi-accunters, I would bet hundo on it.
Originally Posted by ANTIHERO
this is goin redic insane far with it. FFS who wants a camera on them when they are playing. Not people who see poker and porn as a dinamic duo. If you people want a less of a chance of being cheated play live with all people that you knowOriginally Posted by jnelson214
I agree here as well...Originally Posted by lockdownpokah
having ss# makes sense
but i dont see how eliminating p2p transfer would do anything but hurt poker
what about the whole I.D camera or whatever?? why couldnt they monitor who was playing on what computer. It could be as simple as when you log onto the site with your screen-name and password you would also have to log in your web-cam?
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If i was really one of those cheating guys i would post here and make such comments that make me look guilty of it. Think about it. I dont even play online poker man but i think its funny how manioulateable your peoples minds are
Originally Posted by blackstar74
you really sound like you are one of the multi-accunters, I would bet hundo on it.Originally Posted by ANTIHERO
this is goin redic insane far with it. FFS who wants a camera on them when they are playing. Not people who see poker and porn as a dinamic duo. If you people want a less of a chance of being cheated play live with all people that you knowOriginally Posted by jnelson214
I agree here as well...Originally Posted by lockdownpokah
having ss# makes sense
but i dont see how eliminating p2p transfer would do anything but hurt poker
what about the whole I.D camera or whatever?? why couldnt they monitor who was playing on what computer. It could be as simple as when you log onto the site with your screen-name and password you would also have to log in your web-cam?
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So many people are resistant to this, claiming it will kill high stakes games. Fuck it, if removing p2p transfers is the only way to preserve the integrity of the game, make them work their way back up to the top if they can't afford to play high stakes MTT's on their own dime.
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This Antihero guy is quickly moving up my least favorite poster's list.
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Agree. AntiHero, u must be a tremendous railer if you see us there allllll the time like you say. Except we actually play at the same time.










