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  1. let me preface this by saying i have no noble objectives/dilusions... nor any profound suggestions/advice. but come the fcuk on - this is my industry and my business and i m not about to sit quitely while it all goes to the crapper and dies a slow death.

    multiaccounting/cheating is threatening to kill the entire industry. obvious enough. most top pros prob feel they are pretty much losing money by not MA ing tourneys considering the number of people doing it, the ease of it, and the minimal risk of getting caught. i certainly cant blame them.

    personally i d like to thank the egos of many for needing to brag about your accomplishments to get you caught and expose the true depths of the problem.

    all this exposed cheating diminishes the occassional player base/new player base. plus we are all paranoid and speculative over too many results. it is infuriating to see something that is cheating/ could be cheating on a daily basis. even/especially from respected people in the game.

    the field at the wsop is so ridic soft , and all these donkeys would come out and donate if they trusted online poker. but they dont . and rightfully so it seems.

    i ve been thinking of solutions to this problem non-stop for about 3 weeks. its no easy task. and i certainly havent stumpled upon the solution.

    but, in reading/learning about the various exchanges and how they are regulated.....i couldnt help but think of parallels to the poker world. the board that manages the exchange gets a piece of every trade the traders make on the floor. in theory, since the trading rooms have been automated, the two highstake worlds are pretty similar. the traders are the gamblers and the board is the poker room. but no trader would cheat the board lest be done for life trading for life. (see wallstreet)

    the point is this : regulate it or say bye to online poker.

    regulation by the pokerroms who NEED to come together. have a board whose number 1 priority is security....bring on biometrics......fuckin webcam me while i play or something.....i dont care.

    i was irrate to see mrcasino making a run last night and i antisweated him with passion. i would have been sick and the community would have erupted if the dude actually won. suspensions should be across poker rooms. we shouldnt tolerate cheating nor should anyone with interest in its future. im not saying ban him for life, but there has to be a way to truly suspend someone's ability to play. then they'll learn. and more importantly others will too.

    I dont want to jerry McGuire myself or anything but shit, i dont want to get a real job anytime soon.
  2.  
    Originally Posted by theNorfman View Post

    but shit, i dont want to get a real job anytime soon.

    Good Post. Good points. I agree with every single thing said in this post---and def don't wanna lose my job and have to get a "normal person job"
  3. nice brag posts
  4. Norfman all this coming from the guy who just recently changed his full tilt screename from onefreekingtime to doctorhowser...... Comeon man how can you complain about this stuff reallly???
  5. not sure how someone could disagree with your stance on the issue
    but there really isnt a way to fix it
    there will always be ways around it
    you can ban anyone you want
    but there will always be a way to get a new account under a new name, address, etc.
    it's just a risk you play when you play online
    nice post either way though
     
  6. Is it really so difficult NOT to cheat?
  7. Step 1: Must have Social Security # to cash out
    Step 2: No P2P transfers

    Step 3: Regulation

    edit: or just minimize P2P transfers...2k max per week, 5k per month etc...along with #'s 1 and 3 and 95% of this stuff goes away
     
  8.  
    Originally Posted by MarkFSU1 View Post

    Step 1: Must have Social Security # to cash out
    Step 2: No P2P transfers

    Step 3: Regulation

    No way im giving my SS over the internet and no player transfers is redic, I know for one I wouldnt play on a site that did not allow transfers.
  9.  
    Originally Posted by ANTIHERO View Post

     
    Originally Posted by MarkFSU1 View Post

    Step 1: Must have Social Security # to cash out
    Step 2: No P2P transfers

    Step 3: Regulation

    No way im giving my SS over the internet and no player transfers is redic, I know for one I wouldnt play on a site that did not allow transfers.

    first of all who are you? Secondly, all I did was provide an example of how to eliminate this stuff...

    Also, sorry to burst your bubble, but when its regulated Social Security #'s will be mandatory for cashouts and will be proof as taxing documents for the IRS
     
  10. lol.......tilt closed my 'onefreekingtime' account.......it was opened cause i wanted rakeback and then it was closed. the second i started playing on the doctorhowser account i switched in my profile.
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  11. <3 normmmmmmm
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  12.  
    Originally Posted by MarkFSU1 View Post

     
    Originally Posted by ANTIHERO View Post

     
    Originally Posted by MarkFSU1 View Post

    Step 1: Must have Social Security # to cash out
    Step 2: No P2P transfers

    Step 3: Regulation

    No way im giving my SS over the internet and no player transfers is redic, I know for one I wouldnt play on a site that did not allow transfers.

    first of all who are you? Secondly, all I did was provide an example of how to eliminate this stuff...

    Also, sorry to burst your bubble, but when its regulated Social Security #'s will be mandatory for cashouts and will be proof as taxing documents for the IRS

    LOL who am i?? Do you really want to know, its not like you know me or anything. I could ask the same about you but i see you on the RAIL a lot so im familiar with ur sn. I think people just need to face the fact that there are lots of rules that there is no way of enforcing in online play. Have you ever heard of identity theft......? Require ss #s and im sure that will increase
  13. My who are you comment was to antihero, really wish P5 would ban ppl who run around on here causing drama but dont have Screen names in their profile...should be mandatory to have poker screen names in your profile to post in PD
     
  14.  
    Originally Posted by theNorfman View Post

    lol.......tilt closed my 'onefreekingtime' account.......it was opened cause i wanted rakeback and then it was closed. the second i started playing on the doctorhowser account i switched in my profile.

    Ok thanks for the reply man I wasn't saying that you were Multi accounting in same tourny, just thought ur post was a little hipocritical. Sorry to hear that you dont have rakeback.
  15. So because he changed his screen name, this makes him a cheater? Norfman is one of the most stand up guys in the online poker world today. Comments like are just idiotic.
  16. so now youre going to commit a Federal Felony with Identity theft so you can play online poker? is that wat you are saying Antihero? you sound like a real stand up guy
     
  17. having ss# makes sense
    but i dont see how eliminating p2p transfer would do anything but hurt poker
     
  18.  
    Originally Posted by MarkFSU1 View Post

    My who are you comment was to antihero, really wish P5 would ban ppl who run around on here causing drama but dont have Screen names in their profile...should be mandatory to have poker screen names in your profile to post in PD

    Are you saying that you want to restrict the forum to people who play online poker only? Maybe i dont post my screenames cuz i have like 12 on each site.lololololololol

    mark plz go play in traffic
  19.  
    Originally Posted by ANTIHERO View Post

     
    Originally Posted by MarkFSU1 View Post

    My who are you comment was to antihero, really wish P5 would ban ppl who run around on here causing drama but dont have Screen names in their profile...should be mandatory to have poker screen names in your profile to post in PD

    Are you saying that you want to restrict the forum to people who play online poker only? Maybe i dont post my screenames cuz i have like 12 on each site.lololololololol

    mark plz go play in traffic

    I think Mark's suggestion is quite logical, actually.
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  20.  
    Originally Posted by MarkFSU1 View Post

    My who are you comment was to antihero, really wish P5 would ban ppl who run around on here causing drama but dont have Screen names in their profile...should be mandatory to have poker screen names in your profile to post in PD

    Agree w/ this and agree w/ norf.
  21.  
    Originally Posted by lockdownpokah View Post

    having ss# makes sense
    but i dont see how eliminating p2p transfer would do anything but hurt poker

    I agree here as well...

    what about the whole I.D camera or whatever?? why couldnt they monitor who was playing on what computer. It could be as simple as when you log onto the site with your screen-name and password you would also have to log in your web-cam?

    ??? possible
     
  22. I talk to so many players live who don't trust online poker and these people are the mosnter fishes we want playing online. I've always told them online poker can be trusted and now i can't even do that. they were right. Makes me think i need to be planning of life without online poker in 3-5 years.
  23.  
    Originally Posted by jnelson214 View Post

     
    Originally Posted by lockdownpokah View Post

    having ss# makes sense
    but i dont see how eliminating p2p transfer would do anything but hurt poker

    I agree here as well...

    what about the whole I.D camera or whatever?? why couldnt they monitor who was playing on what computer. It could be as simple as when you log onto the site with your screen-name and password you would also have to log in your web-cam?

    ??? possible

    this is goin redic insane far with it. FFS who wants a camera on them when they are playing. Not people who see poker and porn as a dinamic duo. If you people want a less of a chance of being cheated play live with all people that you know
  24.  
    Originally Posted by ANTIHERO View Post

     
    Originally Posted by jnelson214 View Post

     
    Originally Posted by lockdownpokah View Post

    having ss# makes sense
    but i dont see how eliminating p2p transfer would do anything but hurt poker

    I agree here as well...

    what about the whole I.D camera or whatever?? why couldnt they monitor who was playing on what computer. It could be as simple as when you log onto the site with your screen-name and password you would also have to log in your web-cam?

    ??? possible

    this is goin redic insane far with it. FFS who wants a camera on them when they are playing. Not people who see poker and porn as a dinamic duo. If you people want a less of a chance of being cheated play live with all people that you know

    you really sound like you are one of the multi-accunters, I would bet hundo on it.
  25.  
    Originally Posted by blackstar74 View Post

     
    Originally Posted by ANTIHERO View Post

     
    Originally Posted by jnelson214 View Post

     
    Originally Posted by lockdownpokah View Post

    having ss# makes sense
    but i dont see how eliminating p2p transfer would do anything but hurt poker

    I agree here as well...

    what about the whole I.D camera or whatever?? why couldnt they monitor who was playing on what computer. It could be as simple as when you log onto the site with your screen-name and password you would also have to log in your web-cam?

    ??? possible

    this is goin redic insane far with it. FFS who wants a camera on them when they are playing. Not people who see poker and porn as a dinamic duo. If you people want a less of a chance of being cheated play live with all people that you know

    you really sound like you are one of the multi-accunters, I would bet hundo on it.

    If i was really one of those cheating guys i would post here and make such comments that make me look guilty of it. Think about it. I dont even play online poker man but i think its funny how manioulateable your peoples minds are
  26. MarkFSU1 completely agree with your all 3 of your suggestions specially the posting in pd with no sn's in your profile do everyone a favor here and delete your p5s account antihero your opinion does not madder to anyone so why throw your two cents in?
     
  27.  
    Originally Posted by MarkFSU1 View Post


    Step 1: Must have Social Security # to cash out
    Step 2: No P2P transfers

    Step 3: Regulation

    edit: or just minimize P2P transfers...2k max per week, 5k per month etc...along with #'s 1 and 3 and 95% of this stuff goes away

    So many people are resistant to this, claiming it will kill high stakes games. Fuck it, if removing p2p transfers is the only way to preserve the integrity of the game, make them work their way back up to the top if they can't afford to play high stakes MTT's on their own dime.
  28. This Antihero guy is quickly moving up my least favorite poster's list.
  29.  
    Originally Posted by MarkFSU1 View Post

    My who are you comment was to antihero, really wish P5 would ban ppl who run around on here causing drama but dont have Screen names in their profile...should be mandatory to have poker screen names in your profile to post in PD

    Agree. AntiHero, u must be a tremendous railer if you see us there allllll the time like you say. Except we actually play at the same time.
  30.  
    Originally Posted by uncpeej View Post


    This Antihero guy is quickly moving up my least favorite poster's list.

    I don't think its a coincidence that three of his four favorite players listed in his profile are confirmed multiaccounters.

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