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  1. gamble153 gamble153 is offline

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    Dec 21st, 2010 (12/21/2010 7:55pm) in reply to I Spew Chips

     
    Originally Posted by I Spew Chips View Post

    So many ppl being backed now probably doesn't help the tipping. The majority of the time I'm not tipping anything no matter what the cash is for if I'm in makeup.

    I am a dealer and I have NO problem if someone doesnt tip. Its your perogative and you have your reasons. Feeding someone elses family before your own is just irresponsible. With that said, keep your (lack of) tipping opinion to yourself. At the moment, most dealers are making a decent living. There is currently enough recreational players or generous (whatever you want to call them) to keep the pay decent for dealers. I dont see the need for you to advertise why you wont compensate the staff. The more you spread you thoughts on stiffing the dealers then the more the tipping players will stop. When all this happens , well I cant imagine the workforce you will have in the box handling you financial interest with the flip of a card.

    And to the D-Bag that thinks all you need is a pulse.......come sit in the box at the game of my choice and lets see how you do.

     
    Originally Posted by z06fanatic View Post

    how bout you tip what you want, regardless what it is.....why is tipping even mandatory? why is it the consumers job to pay peoples salaries because their employers decide to pay them peanuts and put the burden on us? Dealers generally speaking dont appreciate tips - half the time in cash games they just knock the table and dont say anything, or if they do they mumble it under their breath and wont make eye contact. One time I was joking with a friend about not tipping and the guy started dealing my cards all over the place - half the time the cards wouldnt even reach me - hey dickhead dealers, your jobs can be done by anyone with a pulse, and soon machines will take your place. Theres definitely good dealers out there, not knocking them, Ive just encountered a ton of awful dealers who dont deserve any tip. Regardless people should tip what they want and the dealers should really show more respect for those who decide to tip them

    Your rambling should be reduced to "If you do your job correctly, I tip you because I appreciate your service. If you dont appreciate my compensation, then there will be no more."

    Your opinion on who is qualified to do the job is childish and just way off. And the machines thing has been tried and failed. Studies have shown that if you play to a computer dealing and you cant sit there in your underwear, then it doesnt work.
  2. bonflizubi bonflizubi is offline

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    Dec 21st, 2010 (12/21/2010 8:09pm) in reply to gamble153

    call me slow... but what's a down? is it a dealt hand?
     
  3. cchan cchan is online now

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    Dec 21st, 2010 (12/21/2010 8:11pm) in reply to bonflizubi

     
    Originally Posted by bonflizubi View Post

    call me slow... but what's a down? is it a dealt hand?

    its like a shift.

    every 30 minutes they rotate a table / go on break.
  4. calijohn calijohn is offline

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    Dec 21st, 2010 (12/21/2010 8:58pm) in reply to DoubleS00ted

     
    Originally Posted by DoubleS00ted View Post

    After thinking about it I think we should tip the same as we would in a restaraunt.. if I get good service I tip up to 30 %.. bad service I tip 18 %.. so If I win a WSOP event for 600k and I get good service its only fair Id give 180 to 200k as a tip.. they provided a service and if it wasnt for them I never would have gotten that score.

    Bad service gets 18% ? You want to tip 18% minimum and 30% possibly of a big cash payout? You, my anti scrooge, are completely retarded but I hope you win a big tournament so we can all watch you hand over 30% of your winnings to the dealer. BTW, I tip no more than 20% at a restuarant and that is for good service. Bad service gets 8% or less. Nothing like rewarding a bad server with a generous 18% tip. Maybe I should move to Serbia.
    BTW, when I do cash in a tourney and give a big tip, get a receipt as it is a tax write off! Also, the security guys (at least at Commerece) do not get any of the floor/dealer money so if he is helping you to your car or down to the cage, give him something for protecting you.
  5. Trav04 Trav04 is offline

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    Dec 21st, 2010 (12/21/2010 9:35pm) in reply to calijohn

     
    Originally Posted by calijohn View Post

    Bad service gets 18% ? You want to tip 18% minimum and 30% possibly of a big cash payout? You, my anti scrooge, are completely retarded but I hope you win a big tournament so we can all watch you hand over 30% of your winnings to the dealer. BTW, I tip no more than 20% at a restuarant and that is for good service. Bad service gets 8% or less. Nothing like rewarding a bad server with a generous 18% tip. Maybe I should move to Serbia.
    BTW, when I do cash in a tourney and give a big tip, get a receipt as it is a tax write off! Also, the security guys (at least at Commerece) do not get any of the floor/dealer money so if he is helping you to your car or down to the cage, give him something for protecting you.

    wow nothing like getting leveled 6 months later... congrats
  6. Acpittboss Acpittboss is offline

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    Dec 21st, 2010 (12/21/2010 9:41pm) in reply to Trav04

    Played a small tourney at a local casino this weekend
    $80 buy in 1st was $691 and 2nd was $346 if I can memeber right we chopped it for $518 and $517 I took 5 $100 bills and left the rest for the dealers
  7. Smiler90 Smiler90 is offline

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    Dec 21st, 2010 (12/21/2010 11:54pm) in reply to Acpittboss

    Tip nothing, they're already getting paid for their job.
  8. Robot Robot is offline

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    Dec 22nd, 2010 (12/22/2010 12:56am) in reply to Getumboy

    Do the Roy Winston thing and say FU to the dealers by not tipping at all. (Borgata Open Main Event Winner 2009 or 08 (?).
  9. Stoneface Stoneface is offline

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    Dec 22nd, 2010 (12/22/2010 1:07am) in reply to Robot

    IMO, It's kinda like going to a restaurant that automatically adds a gratuity to the meal for a party of 8 or more. Service would have to be absolutely top notch for me to add to that tip.

    I very rarely tip if they've already taken out x% (standard seems to be 3%) out of the prize pool for dealers. Sometimes I catch flak for it but I really don't care.
  10. z06fanatic z06fanatic is offline

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    Dec 22nd, 2010 (12/22/2010 1:16am) in reply to gamble153

     
    Originally Posted by gamble153 View Post

    I am a dealer and I have NO problem if someone doesnt tip. Its your perogative and you have your reasons. Feeding someone elses family before your own is just irresponsible. With that said, keep your (lack of) tipping opinion to yourself. At the moment, most dealers are making a decent living. There is currently enough recreational players or generous (whatever you want to call them) to keep the pay decent for dealers. I dont see the need for you to advertise why you wont compensate the staff. The more you spread you thoughts on stiffing the dealers then the more the tipping players will stop. When all this happens , well I cant imagine the workforce you will have in the box handling you financial interest with the flip of a card.

    And to the D-Bag that thinks all you need is a pulse.......come sit in the box at the game of my choice and lets see how you do.

    Your rambling should be reduced to "If you do your job correctly, I tip you because I appreciate your service. If you dont appreciate my compensation, then there will be no more."

    Your opinion on who is qualified to do the job is childish and just way off. And the machines thing has been tried and failed. Studies have shown that if you play to a computer dealing and you cant sit there in your underwear, then it doesnt work.

    I think theres a skill to dealing, but just as much skill to dealing as there is being a manager at a Mcdonalds. If you really think dealing requires more skill than say a Mcdonalds manager I think your way off your rocker
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  11. ajedrez ajedrez is offline

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    Dec 22nd, 2010 (12/22/2010 2:34am) in reply to z06fanatic

    never been close to a situation where I should tip a dealer :(

    if one of you guys wants to flip off my live doomswitch at a FT one of these days I'll gladly break you down ..
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