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Joined: Jan 10Feb 14th, 2011 (2/14/2011 5:17pm) in reply to gotzballz
tough spot to be in man but i might send the sites the news/details of your friends death and send the money home to his family. terrible situation either way but i could only imagine how it would be if....
A: you send home money to the family there at peace with it and so are you(no gulilty consquence)
B: transfer the money to your account , play with it, possibly loose it and then be pursued legally if tilt and stars find out a time line of when he passed away to when the money was transfered out.
my best advice is send his family the money and try and move on the best you can...... but just imagine being contacted legally from these sites and catching a case and loosing your privlages, or freedom(jail time) along with the death of your friend all over a measily 2k not worth it in long run def.
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Joined: Feb 07Feb 14th, 2011 (2/14/2011 5:54pm) in reply to donkeytrap26
I'm actually baffled at the people saying OP is a POS, get over yourself.
Yes, I understand it isn't his money. Yes, I understand his family could possibly use that money. However, in terms of this money and the game of poker, OP knows this guy better than anyone--including his family. I do agree that the family should be consulted before you do anything, but let's not make it sound like OP is trying to steal this money--he's asking a question.
The fact that this guy has come here and posted this pretty clearly indicates that he is NOT a POS. He isn't being underhanded at all in this situation and was just looking for some direction. He made it pretty clear that this money was of little relevance to the family. If he is going through the trouble of making this post, I highly doubt he would lie about this detail. Maybe I'm being naive, but I can think of a few friends who would feel the same way as the OP's deceased friend and want someone who took the game seriously to use that money to advance their poker career.
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Unless my family was in great need of the money I would want my friend to have it and play with it in my honor. I would want it to be a good friend and not just some guy I have a beer with once a month. I don't know how OP is a POS for asking this. I think a true POS would have just took the money and not made a public post about it. Maybe the family won't even want it because its "gambling" money. We don't know nor do we know much about OP and his unfortunate situation. I really don't think we know enough to make a judgement of what he does either way.
If my friend who sells pot dies should I go and sell all his pot and give all the money to the family? Fuck no I'm gonna smoke that shit like he would want me to just like I think OP's friend would want him to play with the money(as long as the family is not in desperate need).
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Joined: May 09Feb 14th, 2011 (2/14/2011 6:15pm) in reply to FouTight
[QUOTE=FouTight;6097935]If the deceased family is well off and will not notice anything different from having +2k or -2k and if to the OP 2K to play poker with is a big deal and if the deceased would have wanted his very good friend to get his roll and not his familly then personally i dont see anything wrong with logging into your friends account and xfering the money over to your account.
Pretty sure theft is theft whether its from someone who is "well off" or not. Let's be clear here. The money belongs to his estate. What he would have wanted is absolutely irrelevant if he didn't make his wishes known in a last will and testament. His heirs are entitled to that money. If you take the money, it will probably constitute a felony (it would in this state.) Does this make the decision any easier? -
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Joined: Sep 06Feb 14th, 2011 (2/14/2011 7:18pm) in reply to matze_widi
Agree that the natural thing to do here is to give the money to the family. However, if they are rich pricks (have over 1million in a checking account) gambooool hard, and if you win make sure your buddy enjoys the view of the party from the clouds......
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account balance in T$, too marginal. W$..... a push. tournament tickets? ... closer.
Edited By: Mr_BigQueso Feb 14th, 2011 at 07:31 PM
the moral grey area question of your conscience freeroll pretty much boils down to whether or not the satellite entry turned out to be a must-play or if it was deregable
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Edited By: inissint Feb 14th, 2011 at 07:45 PMseriously, whose posts are better than this guy?Originally Posted by Mr_BigQueso
account balance in T$, too marginal. W$..... a push. tournament tickets? ... closer.
the moral grey area question of your conscience freeroll pretty much boils down to whether or not the satellite entry turned out to be a must-play or if it was deregable
just for that, Haberbombs for EVERYONE
p.s. lol @ everyone bashing OP...sry for your loss, man...help the family get his money...nothing else needs to be said -
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Joined: Aug 05Feb 14th, 2011 (2/14/2011 7:58pm) in reply to inissint
A few questions:
1. Does the 2K or however much it is make a difference to the family. This is obviously subjective but just be conservative in making that determination. Not just about how much money the parents have in the bank many factors to consider.
2. Was the family aware the your friend played on-line poker?
3. Did he have brother's or sister's?
If the answer to 1 is it would make a difference, than you need to do what you need to do to help the family get the money. If they are financially well off enough where 2K just makes no difference at all, see question 2.
If the answer to question 2 is no, well then there is definitely a case to be made not to tell the parents. Why give them any reason to question what their son was involved with and possibly think different of him. Even though most of the players on this site would object to this statment: Most people in this world do consider poker gambling and a lot of those people don't think gambling is a good thing. If his parents fit into that group, I don't think you need to tell them.
If the answer to question 3 is yes, and if those kids know anything about on-line poker, maybe give them access to the accounts instead of the parents? Or at least ask them what they think you should do, they might agree that mommy and daddy don't need to know that their brother was an on-line poker player.
If you do decide that it isn't in his parents best interests to know about these accounts and that the money would not affect their well being either way, maybe you donate some of the money in your friend's name? Were there any causes he supported? Just an idea I hadn't seen mentioned ITT but you could definitely make arrangements via transer to withdraw the money, donate it, and if you went through all that trouble, I don't see any issue if you hold a portion back (10 - 20%) and have a freeroll in memory of your friend. -
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The fact that you posted this thinking it wouldn't be a landslide of responses telling you to give the family the money, and that you plan on playing poker with it, makes me believe poker is not drying up.
also, you aren't real.
I see nothing that makes me believe this is true other than the word of a guy that is about to ship his dead buddies bankroll...Originally Posted by elusively
I'm actually baffled at the people saying OP is a POS, get over yourself.
Yes, I understand it isn't his money. Yes, I understand his family could possibly use that money. However, in terms of this money and the game of poker, OP knows this guy better than anyone--including his family. I do agree that the family should be consulted before you do anything, but let's not make it sound like OP is trying to steal this money--he's asking a question.
The fact that this guy has come here and posted this pretty clearly indicates that he is NOT a POS. He isn't being underhanded at all in this situation and was just looking for some direction. He made it pretty clear that this money was of little relevance to the family. If he is going through the trouble of making this post, I highly doubt he would lie about this detail. Maybe I'm being naive, but I can think of a few friends who would feel the same way as the OP's deceased friend and want someone who took the game seriously to use that money to advance their poker career.
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Hmmm brings up something i never thought about....Def should leave something saying who gets my poker monies. I would want my BR going to someone who could use it for poker and would have no problem if my boy jacked my roll and kept grinding. My family dose nothing but bitch about me playing poker so no monies for them. Srry for your loss, man tough spot your in but if he would want you to get the funds use them and play to make him proud. If you end up crushing something use the money to get him some sick memorial.
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Joined: Mar 09Feb 14th, 2011 (2/14/2011 9:48pm) in reply to lawyergunsmoney
LOL at all the people talking shit in this thread. Some of you I actually believe would turn it over to the family but I bet most would just transfer it over and not say a word. Standard P5's responses.
How can they actually do anything when the money is located out of this country? I doubt FT would corporate with some dumb state, county, or city law enforcement agency and I really don't see the feds wasting their time with this although they have wasted it on less.Originally Posted by lawyergunsmoney
Pretty sure theft is theft whether its from someone who is "well off" or not. Let's be clear here. The money belongs to his estate. What he would have wanted is absolutely irrelevant if he didn't make his wishes known in a last will and testament. His heirs are entitled to that money. If you take the money, it will probably constitute a felony (it would in this state.) Does this make the decision any easier?
So really who cares what OP does with the money. The choice is his and only he knows the best answer. -
First of all, my condolences. Losing a bestfriend at such a young age is a ver hard thing to deal with.
Second, You must get the account(s) info to his family. As much as your friend would want you to go wild with the 2k it's not the right thing to do. You will have insta regret and be very ashamed when you go busto.
Do the right thing.
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Joined: Aug 10Feb 15th, 2011 (2/15/2011 2:40am) in reply to Arty_the_Cat
Sorry for your loss OP.
Dont play with the money, contact his family about it. Who knows, they may turn around and tell you to play with it, but its not your decision to make. -
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Joined: Jun 06Feb 15th, 2011 (2/15/2011 3:52am) in reply to jimmywhitey
if he gives the screen names and password to the family, he can help them request the check.. no need to send death certificate..once account is at zero.. it's done.
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Joined: Mar 07Feb 15th, 2011 (2/15/2011 4:55am) in reply to An Actuary
If I die, and one of my friends comes on here asking what they should do with the money, could you all please tell them that I'd like the money to go to my family. Thanks.
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Joined: Aug 06Feb 15th, 2011 (2/15/2011 5:06am) in reply to m_hawk_1
Sorry to hear about your loss. If you are good enough friends that you know his password, I think you should play with it. I think it's what your friend would want. $2k isn't anything in the scheme of life. If you hit a big score or turn the $2k into a nice roll, donate some money to something you friend would like. If you hit a huge score, send a kid to college or help some needy families.
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random.chu
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Joined: Aug 09Feb 15th, 2011 (2/15/2011 5:43am) in reply to m_hawk_1
Originally Posted by m_hawk_1
If I die, and one of my friends comes on here asking what they should do with the money, could you all please tell them that I'd like the money to go to my family. Thanks.
bro just lemme take it for a quick spin on the 10/20 tables, i've just got a feelin i'll do well
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Joined: Jun 06Feb 15th, 2011 (2/15/2011 5:47am) in reply to osugambler
OP, Im sorry for your loss. With that being said, Im also kind of surprised at everyone thinking its completely disgusting or a no-brainer for OP to consider keeping or "freerolling" the money in question. If I were to suddenly die, I would want anyone who had or could get access to my account to take and enjoy that money to the fullest. I would NOT want it to just sit in an account that would NEVER be touched and just eventually become the poker sites money. Obviously OP's friend told him or allowed him to know his passwords with trust for a reason, As I do/would. If he would have wanted it to be a definitive answer like it going to his family, he could have told one of them the PWs or wrote in down "in case of emergency/tragedy"
If the money was such a big deal or large sum to OP's friend/friends family, Im sure he would have been smart enough to keep most of it in the bank in case of a situation like this as astronomical case.
OP: Its ultimately up to you and your idea of why your friend let you have his info and what he would want you to do with it. I would think most people would look at his family, and see if the money would drastically help them or change in a certain way. If not, I would use the money to do something productive. Even its just grinding it out or taking a shot at some kind of events as stated(whether it was a joke or not.) I think it would be one amazing story if you wound up winning an event of some sort and doing it in his honor while hes up there looking down sweating the action. Hey even making some money here and there and get something specially made for him in his honor that you can have with you for the rest of your life. I sure know Id rather have a friend try and making something happen while there alive then my money go to some random cable bill or allow someone to just sit on there ass for a few months since there rent will be payed for. (Assuming my family was not poor, However I would NOT be leaving thousands on a computer if my family was poor.)
Sorry for the super long post, this subject just really hit me when I read it and figured id chime in. -
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Joined: Aug 10Feb 15th, 2011 (2/15/2011 5:56am) in reply to TheSlicKKid2
sorry for ur loss mate. if you go to the family about it and tell them what the money was for and how he used it, might be a chance they might just give it to you.
i know its not the same as a PS3 or something his folks might have no need for but if they have enough money they might just give it to a good mate, unless you were already in his will? -
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Joined: Jan 06Feb 15th, 2011 (2/15/2011 6:21am) in reply to MattAKA
it obv does seem like a sleazy thing to do.
but if u asked prob most poker players who had a roll what they would want to be done with it if they happen to die accidently, i think a lot more would say plo flips > pay for my funeral.
but obv since there is a doubt over the deceased (rip) desires, then it goes to the family. -
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Joined: Feb 08Feb 15th, 2011 (2/15/2011 7:27am) in reply to m_hawk_1
Originally Posted by m_hawk_1
If I die, and one of my friends comes on here asking what they should do with the money, could you all please tell them that I'd like the money to go to my family. Thanks.
FWIW you can contact the sites and give instructions in case something ever happens to you. They need the death certificate and a statement identifying your beneficiaries (most likely your family), but they'll send it wherever you want. -
IMO, if you really think that your friend would want you to have the money for poker reasons, then I feel like morally it is fine to keep the money.
One of my wishes (I don't have a will, but have told him and my parents that this is what I want) if I happen to die early is that $10k of my estate goes to my best poker buddy to go play the main event at the WSOP (and hopefully get on ESPN with his story and get laid because of it). In fact just thinking about this now has me thinking I should do the same for another poker friend of mine, as well as some other similar things (maybe buy my lil sis a new car, my brother an epic vacation) instead of just having the money go to my family and go to pay for "forgettable" things. -
first of all sorry for your loss, can't even imagine how that must feel.
now, it is not your decision to make. are you his only friend? his only poker playing friend? just because you know his password does not make you number one friend. just because you know how to access his money doesn't give you the right to decide what to do with it. he obviously never told you that he wanted you to have the money so even if you genuinely believe that it would be what he wanted, it is possible that it might not be. therefore you cannot take his money. this money is no different to the money in his bank account. he had money, some of which he kept on a poker site, it is still his money just in a different location. the only potential problem that someone stated is if his family were against poker and he hid the fact that he played from them, if this is the case then the decision is more difficult. perhaps you could find a way to give the family his money but not let them no where it was from. anyway, do the right thing and discuss it with his family. and again, sorry for your loss. -
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Sorry for your loss man. I think you would feel better about it tho if you told the family and tried to do something in your friends name with the money. Pretty sure you're not gonna like yourself much if you take that money without telling anyone and blow it in a game.
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I always wondered if someone on FTP security or other sites would just look up dormant accounts with money in it and search the name on file in google.
Edited By: zspokerpink Feb 15th, 2011 at 03:10 PM
If article found of death, ship monies? -
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Joined: Nov 09Feb 15th, 2011 (2/15/2011 3:29pm) in reply to m_hawk_1
Originally Posted by m_hawk_1
If I die, and one of my friends comes on here asking what they should do with the money, could you all please tell them that I'd like the money to go to my family. Thanks.
If I die, and one of my friends comes on here asking what they should do with the money, could you please tell them to give it to my little brother for exclusive MTT purposes only. Thanks
OP, sorry for your loss just do what is in your heart tbh. F the system
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