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Tonight's Stars $150, OK I'm an idiot ...

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  1. xPeru xPeru is offline

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    Oct 19th, 2006 (10/19/2006 11:13pm)

    But how would you lay it down?

    Limper would definitely have raised PF w As or a pair. My chips put me in c50th, half way through the second hour (63 get paid)

    pokerstars Game #6696573675: Tournament #33698483, $150+$12 Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (100/200) - 2006/10/19 - 22:32:28 (ET)
    Table '33698483 58' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
    Seat 1: soggyvag2 (2555 in chips)
    Seat 2: bigbobm11 (3170 in chips)
    Seat 3: RYAN38411 (4665 in chips)
    Seat 4: nutflopper1 (9481 in chips)
    Seat 5: princemild (2355 in chips)
    Seat 6: RyssAbbe (5700 in chips)
    Seat 7: HarryPeru (5620 in chips)
    Seat 8: bigalpo (3805 in chips)
    Seat 9: orian_sharp (2120 in chips)
    nutflopper1: posts small blind 100
    princemild: posts big blind 200
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to HarryPeru [Kc Kd]
    RyssAbbe: calls 200
    HarryPeru: raises 400 to 600
    bigalpo: folds
    orian_sharp: folds
    soggyvag2: folds
    bigbobm11: folds
    RYAN38411: folds
    nutflopper1: calls 500
    princemild: calls 400
    RyssAbbe: calls 400
    *** FLOP *** [7d 4s 8h]
    nutflopper1: checks
    princemild: bets 1755 and is all-in
    RyssAbbe: calls 1755
    HarryPeru: raises 3265 to 5020 and is all-in
    nutflopper1: folds
    RyssAbbe: calls 3265
    *** TURN *** [7d 4s 8h] [9d]
    *** RIVER *** [7d 4s 8h 9d] [5d]
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    RyssAbbe: shows [8c 7c] (two pair, Eights and Sevens)
    HarryPeru: shows [Kc Kd] (a pair of Kings)
    HarryPeru said, "fck"
    RyssAbbe collected 6530 from side pot
    princemild: shows [4h 5h] (two pair, Fives and Fours)
    RyssAbbe collected 7665 from main pot
    *** SUMMARY ***

    Do I just chalk this one up to life, or given my reads after 60 hands was my reraise just wrong?
  2. jtown1010 jtown1010 is offline

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    Oct 19th, 2006 (10/19/2006 11:16pm) in reply to xPeru

    If there is ever a time to muck this it is now
  3. gregsox1 gregsox1 is offline

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    Oct 19th, 2006 (10/19/2006 11:25pm) in reply to jtown1010

    I play micros and im bad, but I'd call.
     
  4. ActionJeff ActionJeff is offline

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    Oct 19th, 2006 (10/19/2006 11:27pm) in reply to gregsox1

    please raise more preflop.
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  5. xPeru xPeru is offline

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    Oct 19th, 2006 (10/19/2006 11:36pm) in reply to ActionJeff

    Thnx Jeff, I saw you on the trny list, then thought you must have unregistered ...

    We had got to the stage of very few contested pots, I thought the raise to 600 would push off the rest of the field and leave me HU w the limper if he didn't fold and maybe one other. I chose this risk to get more chips in the pot and get more value out of the Ks. Collaterally, if it ended up w just me and the limper I could push him off an A high flop. A bigger raise would have indicated a pair and he would have been confident his A was good. But you're right a bigger raise would have kept me in the trny, thanks.
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  6. StIcKyFiNgErS StIcKyFiNgErS is offline

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    Oct 19th, 2006 (10/19/2006 11:53pm) in reply to xPeru

    That's a pretty scary flop when you have an all in, and a call in front of you.

    I'd say your KK is good here ~20% of the time.

    I always like the raise to 4x bb with premium hands as opposed to 3x.
    (obv u want to mix this up, blah blah etc.etc....
  7. poundthatace poundthatace is offline

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    Oct 20th, 2006 (10/20/2006 12:10am) in reply to StIcKyFiNgErS

    when four people go to the flop there I'm not even thinking about betting unless I hit a King.... just see it too many times
  8. WiCane WiCane is offline

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    Oct 20th, 2006 (10/20/2006 12:40am) in reply to xPeru

    I think you need to raise to atleast 800-1000. If your normal preflop raise is to 600 you need to be doing more.
     
  9. Squintngo Squintngo is offline

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    Oct 20th, 2006 (10/20/2006 12:46am) in reply to xPeru

    Jeff's right - raise more preflop and you dont have this issue. The one thing I would say is that you don't always have to raise 3x or 4x the BB. Too many ppl just use the slider bar and forget you can type a bet in. Don't be afraid to make it some odd number (ex. 755) with any of your bets.

    As far as your post flop play is concerned, RyssAbbe's smooth call of 1755 (he had 5300 left) should send off warning signs immediately. Sometimes its better to think about hands a lot more before acting (which is what I think you are missing in this hand).
     
  10. xPeru xPeru is offline

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    Oct 20th, 2006 (10/20/2006 1:07am) in reply to Squintngo

    Thanks you're right - too kind in fact, I need to be hit several times around the head to reinforce the point,
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