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  1. FBorges FBorges is offline

    Benfica
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    Apr 14th, 2010 (4/14/2010 12:20pm)

    pokerstars Game #42656714487: Tournament #261214133, $19384670.16+$23565010.80+$0.80 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level IX (75/150) - 2010/04/14 17:15:46 WET [2010/04/14 12:15:46 ET]
    Table '261214133 51' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
    Seat 1: Max666917 (4570 in chips)
    Seat 2: soltar007 (5926 in chips)
    Seat 3: Axixuna (8964 in chips)
    Seat 4: FBorges (4260 in chips)
    Seat 5: silverfoxca (10410 in chips)
    Seat 6: mateo$55 (9095 in chips)
    Seat 7: esasa (5506 in chips)
    Seat 8: pinhemon (2465 in chips)
    Seat 9: tfalves (24208 in chips)
    Max666917: posts the ante 20
    soltar007: posts the ante 20
    Axixuna: posts the ante 20
    FBorges: posts the ante 20
    silverfoxca: posts the ante 20
    mateo$55: posts the ante 20
    esasa: posts the ante 20
    pinhemon: posts the ante 20
    tfalves: posts the ante 20
    Axixuna: posts small blind 75
    FBorges: posts big blind 150
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to FBorges [Tc Kd]
    silverfoxca: folds
    mateo$55: folds
    esasa: folds
    pinhemon: folds
    tfalves: folds
    Max666917: folds
    soltar007: raises 300 to 450
    Axixuna: folds
    FBorges: ??

    First hand at the table...Is a shove +ev here against a totally unknown?
     
  2. Pokfayce Pokfayce is offline

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    Apr 14th, 2010 (4/14/2010 12:44pm) in reply to FBorges

    I don't understand your reasoning for making this move. I think it works often but I just don't get it.
  3. lordxixor101 lordxixor101 is offline

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    Apr 14th, 2010 (4/14/2010 12:46pm) in reply to FBorges

    You have about 10m in a spot against an unknown, I'd really rather fold here. If I'm going to play this, I almost rather be shoving a 87s type of hand, since your K10 has a very good chance of getting dominated (and really, if he has JJ/QQ, your not happy with either hand).

    In this spot, I would rather fold, but make a mental note. If it comes around next orbit, and the exact same spot happens, I might be popping him with nothing.
  4. Sdanby Sdanby is offline

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    Apr 14th, 2010 (4/14/2010 12:47pm) in reply to FBorges

    foldilocks, also what is going on with evryones tourn buy-in in their stars HH
  5. Arobinson11 Arobinson11 is offline

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    Apr 14th, 2010 (4/14/2010 1:38pm) in reply to FBorges

     
    Originally Posted by FBorges View Post

    pokerstars Game #42656714487: Tournament #261214133, $19384670.16+$23565010.80+$0.80 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level IX (75/150) - 2010/04/14 17:15:46 WET [2010/04/14 12:15:46 ET]
    Table '261214133 51' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
    Seat 1: Max666917 (4570 in chips)
    Seat 2: soltar007 (5926 in chips)
    Seat 3: Axixuna (8964 in chips)
    Seat 4: FBorges (4260 in chips)
    Seat 5: silverfoxca (10410 in chips)
    Seat 6: mateo$55 (9095 in chips)
    Seat 7: esasa (5506 in chips)
    Seat 8: pinhemon (2465 in chips)
    Seat 9: tfalves (24208 in chips)
    Max666917: posts the ante 20
    soltar007: posts the ante 20
    Axixuna: posts the ante 20
    FBorges: posts the ante 20
    silverfoxca: posts the ante 20
    mateo$55: posts the ante 20
    esasa: posts the ante 20
    pinhemon: posts the ante 20
    tfalves: posts the ante 20
    Axixuna: posts small blind 75
    FBorges: posts big blind 150
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to FBorges [Tc Kd]
    silverfoxca: folds
    mateo$55: folds
    esasa: folds
    pinhemon: folds
    tfalves: folds
    Max666917: folds
    soltar007: raises 300 to 450
    Axixuna: folds
    FBorges: ??


    First hand at the table...Is a shove +ev here against a totally unknown?

    Its impossible to know w/out somewhat of a range, but shoving isn't terribad or anything.
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  6. RazorFish00 RazorFish00 is offline

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    Apr 14th, 2010 (4/14/2010 1:50pm) in reply to Arobinson11

    Are we now shoving ~30 BB is that the new trend ?? I just don't understand
  7. pokerscrub1 pokerscrub1 is offline

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    Apr 14th, 2010 (4/14/2010 1:56pm) in reply to FBorges

    Why the hell would you shove here?
     
  8. sgildea25 sgildea25 is offline

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    Apr 14th, 2010 (4/14/2010 4:59pm) in reply to FBorges

    $19,384,670.16+$23,565,010.80+$0.80 USD

    Since we are playing for $42,949,681.76 I think I'm folding here since he can be raising light for a $42M buy-in....

    On the serious side, fold. You have no idea of ranges against an unknown.
  9. BomboKlaat BomboKlaat is offline

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    Apr 14th, 2010 (4/14/2010 7:46pm) in reply to Arobinson11

     
    Originally Posted by Arobinson11 View Post

    Its impossible to know w/out somewhat of a range, but shoving isn't terribad or anything.

    +1
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