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On the topic of MTT from same IP address

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  1. ZeeAkamai ZeeAkamai is offline

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    Sep 7th, 2005 (9/7/2005 6:55pm)

    Looking for some educated feedback, and personal points of view(whether from experience or not).

    My roomates and I are all on pokerstars, we all play the MTT's usually the 20's and 10's(when we all play), and I am starting to wonder what would happen to us if we got stuck at the same table. Hasn't happened yet, but shouldn't PStars have the technology to prevent this from ever happening?

    Don't kill a messenger, but we all enjoy those tournies, and have fun tracking each others action. Is it wrong for us to do this? I know we aren't the only ones.

    Zee-AK
  2. imbaaaack imbaaaack is offline

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    Sep 7th, 2005 (9/7/2005 7:00pm) in reply to ZeeAkamai

    I accidentally deleted the reply from pokerstars i had on this subject. after the El Cap/Exclusive ordeal I wanted to see if I could cash in on this angle and according to support...if it was found that two or more players shared a single IP address the matter would be "investigated thoroughly". They were very vague if it was illegal or not so you might want to email them...my roll doesnt support multiple entrys at one time so Im staying in the clear for now anyway....

    Apparently El Cap and Exclusive played from seperate IP addresses on that day.......
  3. supermoves supermoves is offline invented poker

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    Sep 7th, 2005 (9/7/2005 7:00pm) in reply to ZeeAkamai

    When I was in college..the IP addresses were not static...that is to say, each time we logged on, we got a different IP address....it is likley that the first few digits were the same, but they were the same for the whole college. In other words, even though you are all in the same dorm, you likley do NOT all have the same IP address. Even if the first few numbers were the same, that would only mean that you are all at the same college....
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  4. Xantilly Xantilly is offline

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    Sep 7th, 2005 (9/7/2005 7:16pm) in reply to ZeeAkamai

    Your IP's are not the same.

    If you need to verify that for peace of mind, from each computer go to:

    http://www.whatismyip.com/
  5. K-ROb K-ROb is offline

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    Sep 7th, 2005 (9/7/2005 8:15pm) in reply to ZeeAkamai

    I sent PS support with the same question. Basically, can we have two seperate accounts playing off the same ip address, in the same Mtt tournament. Their response was it is allowed, but not in cash games, or STT's. They ask that if you get on the same table to not collude in any way.
    My friend and I usually choose one night a week for poker night and wanted to play in the same Mtt, at they same house. So I asked for clearance before we did it. I am at work. If you want I can reprint the letter, when I get home.
  6. ill flu ill flu is offline

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    Sep 7th, 2005 (9/7/2005 8:20pm) in reply to K-ROb

    Just sone random comments from the El Capitano WCOOP table;

    Exclusive [observer]: me and marcel have been on the same table before and we play each other hard , we are no cheaters and we arent persons who ever wanna be associated with cheatin
    Exclusive [observer]: just all u guys know out there
  7. dippydough dippydough is offline

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    Sep 7th, 2005 (9/7/2005 8:32pm) in reply to ill flu

    i tried to open a 2nd account on stars a few weeks because i thought dippydough was cursed. my new dippydof account was closed immediately.
     
  8. ZeeAkamai ZeeAkamai is offline

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    Sep 7th, 2005 (9/7/2005 8:46pm) in reply to ZeeAkamai

    Appreciate the feedback fellas, GL all... see you at the Final Table

    Zee-AK
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  9. kingofspain kingofspain is offline

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    Sep 7th, 2005 (9/7/2005 9:32pm) in reply to ZeeAkamai

    once again, if people were cheating, pokerstars would never know, because the smart ones would have more than 1 internet connections which would create more than one IP address. It would then be impossible for stars to know they are cheating.
  10. ZeeAkamai ZeeAkamai is offline

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    Sep 8th, 2005 (9/8/2005 12:15pm) in reply to kingofspain

    This has nothing to do with "Collusion" and I believe everyone knows this, it's just covering my ass for the MTT's.

    By the way, we are in a house, not the dorms, and the IP is all the same from our router. So we may be on the watch list if it exists. I emailed support to notify them before they get the chance to email me some sheisty letter telling me of my Coullusion and withdrawn account.

    Zee-AK
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  11. Tsupa Tsupa is offline

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    Sep 8th, 2005 (9/8/2005 1:41pm) in reply to ill flu

    heh, that was a response to me actually... i said something along the lines of it being a non-issue for the sunday tournament since they were never at the same table, but if down the road they ended up at the same table, the community would be up in arms....
  12. tibby99 tibby99 is offline

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    Sep 9th, 2005 (9/9/2005 1:06pm) in reply to ZeeAkamai

    This is why the poker sites allow multiple accounts with the same IP. It is very common to have a single router with a single IP address to the internet that distributes IP addresses to a local network ( your college dorm example ).

    You will all have different IP addresses but on the internet it is the same IP address that you are connecting to the poker site with. The router adds information that allows this IP address sharing without you being aware of it. It's called NAT ( Network Address Translation ) it is very common.

    If you have multiple machines on DSL for example you might be using this and not know it. The bottom line is I have wound up at the same table with my friends in a large MTT. And if we decided to collude we would have had a significant advantage. Worse it's most likely that this will occur at the end of the tournament when the number of tables gets to the point where you have to be at the same table if you are both still in the tournament.
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