Check out our brand new Local Poker Communities! Get updates and interact with poker players in your area.
Visit the United States Poker Community | Visit the California Poker Community | Read more about the Launch of P5s Local

totally retarded or a good spot to bluff?

Reply to Thread
  1. SNG grind_15 SNG grind_15 is offline

    Sandane
    Norway

    Posts: 26
    Joined: Jul 08

    Aug 6th, 2008 (8/6/2008 6:19pm)

    pokerstars Game #19413145159: Tournament #99190650, $50+$5 Hold'em No Limit - Level X (300/600) - 2008/08/06 - 17:50:04 (ET)
    Table '99190650 37' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
    Seat 1: SNG Grind_15 (26288 in chips)
    Seat 2: yenaffit (18172 in chips)
    Seat 3: MournIt (19756 in chips)
    Seat 4: M.A.M.go (12564 in chips)
    Seat 5: DEELEE7 (25810 in chips)
    Seat 6: ana95 (8644 in chips)
    Seat 7: robert07 (8385 in chips)
    Seat 8: FishOnTilt (9940 in chips) is sitting out
    Seat 9: R|P(URL (28756 in chips)
    SNG Grind_15: posts the ante 50
    yenaffit: posts the ante 50
    MournIt: posts the ante 50
    M.A.M.go: posts the ante 50
    DEELEE7: posts the ante 50
    ana95: posts the ante 50
    robert07: posts the ante 50
    FishOnTilt: posts the ante 50
    R|P(URL: posts the ante 50
    yenaffit: posts small blind 300
    MournIt: posts big blind 600
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to SNG Grind_15 [4h 2c]
    M.A.M.go: folds
    DEELEE7: folds
    ana95: folds
    robert07: folds
    FishOnTilt: folds
    R|P(URL: folds
    SNG Grind_15: raises 1125 to 1725
    yenaffit: folds
    MournIt: calls 1125
    *** FLOP *** [6d Ts 3h]
    MournIt: bets 2400
    SNG Grind_15: calls 2400
    *** TURN *** [6d Ts 3h] [4d]
    MournIt: checks
    SNG Grind_15: checks
    *** RIVER *** [6d Ts 3h 4d] [Ah]
    MournIt: bets 3600
    SNG Grind_15: raises 10150 to 13750
     
  2. sotti sotti is offline

    Portland, OR
    United States

    Posts: 1,342
    Joined: Sep 06

    Aug 6th, 2008 (8/6/2008 7:54pm) in reply to SNG grind_15

    This is an absolute game of chicken here.

    He could deffinetly be defending with a Strong ace, c-bet the flop since you were probably bulling (and you were) and you should probably fold a hand like 24, but you float him. Now he's worried you may have a hand of somekind, he may be checking the turn with the intention of check-raising (if he's got an over pair) you check behind because you've got a draw. The scare card hits on the river, and you reraise.

    You having an Ace in this spot isn't very believable imho. The bigger fear for me if I'm BB and have an Ace is that you raised crap and hit two pair. A hand like AJ should be sick with your raise on the river, but will likely call you anyway.
  3. SNG grind_15 SNG grind_15 is offline

    Sandane
    Norway

    Posts: 26
    Joined: Jul 08

    Aug 7th, 2008 (8/7/2008 12:25am) in reply to sotti

    first of all i didnt check raise river, what i figured were likely holding for me was a-6 and a-3, and i figured if he wasn't that smart he wouldn't worrie about what i had or didnt have but since i put him on 10-j ish kind of hand figureing he would fold it
     
    Thread Starter
  4. pkalevar pkalevar is offline

    Posts: 343
    Joined: Jul 06

    Aug 7th, 2008 (8/7/2008 9:45am) in reply to SNG grind_15

    This is crazy aggressive, investing a lot of your stack in a pot where you have no showdown value. If you have a crazy read on this player, and feel you can jerk him around like this, kudos. If not, and your just doing this to a random player... this is mad spewy and most decent and above players will destroy you for it.
  5. moliere33 moliere33 is offline

    New York City, NY
    United States

    Posts: 167
    Joined: Feb 08

    Aug 7th, 2008 (8/7/2008 10:56am) in reply to SNG grind_15

    I like your level of aggression. I'm not sure this is a good spot, but I like that your putting villain to the test.

    He's getting like 2:1 on the river call, right? And he's already committed like 30% of his stack to the pot? The only hand he can really put you on is a strong ace, because a set probably isn't checking behind on the turn, especially with two draws out there.

    IMO, his check on the turn and lead on the river looks pretty strong to me. I don't think you can rule out hands like 57, A10, 34, A6. Because you have no showdown value and you don't know how light villain is calling, ie: is he folding bottom two pair?, I'm probably not making this move here.

    From villain's perspective, you played the hand pretty passively and and your river shove could look a lot like a missed draw. I think I'm only making this move if I feel villian is a really weak player and I've seen him raise fold before.
Reply to Thread