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  1. AnonymousX AnonymousX is offline

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    Dec 8th, 2008 (12/8/2008 1:38pm)

    <title>Enter text here.</title>bubble of a turbo sng...should this be a call?????

    pokerstars Game #22736056842: Tournament #125709770, $25+$2 Hold'em No Limit - Level VIII (200/400) - 2008/12/08 14:00:31 ET
    Table '125709770 1' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
    Seat 1: jolaramon (525 in chips)
    Seat 6: tsxxx04 (1010 in chips)
    Seat 8: Rizen (10010 in chips)
    Seat 9: hartlis1 (1955 in chips)
    jolaramon: posts the ante 25
    tsxxx04: posts the ante 25
    Rizen: posts the ante 25
    hartlis1: posts the ante 25
    jolaramon: posts small blind 200
    tsxxx04: posts big blind 400
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to tsxxx04 [9h 9c]
    Rizen: raises 9585 to 9985 and is all-in
    hartlis1: folds
    jolaramon: calls 300 and is all-in
    tsxxx04: folds
    Uncalled bet (9485) returned to Rizen
    *** FLOP *** [Js 2h Kc]
    *** TURN *** [Js 2h Kc] [4c]
    *** RIVER *** [Js 2h Kc 4c] [9s]
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    jolaramon: shows [Ah 2d] (a pair of Deuces)
    Rizen: shows [6c 4d] (a pair of Fours)
    Rizen collected 1500 from pot
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 1500 | Rake 0
    Board [Js 2h Kc 4c 9s]
    Seat 1: jolaramon (small blind) showed [Ah 2d] and lost with a pair of Deuces
    Seat 6: tsxxx04 (big blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 8: Rizen showed [6c 4d] and won (1500) with a pair of Fours
    Seat 9: hartlis1 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
  2. odstore odstore is offline

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    Dec 8th, 2008 (12/8/2008 1:58pm) in reply to AnonymousX

    I'm pretty sure it's a call. Rizen is shoving atc here and you only have to beat one of their hands.
  3. BillMueller BillMueller is offline OT President

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    Dec 8th, 2008 (12/8/2008 2:00pm) in reply to AnonymousX

    obv brag about being on an upcoming PXF video
  4. Jennifear Jennifear is offline

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    Dec 8th, 2008 (12/8/2008 2:01pm) in reply to AnonymousX

    For sure, and you should be calling with nearly any two!
    Nash for this spot:

    <TABLE class=simple cellSpacing=2 cellPadding=3 border=1><TBODY><TR><TH width=40>PU</TH><TH width=40>CA</TH><TH width=40>OC</TH><TH>Range</TH></TR><TR><TD>CO</TD><TD><TD><TD>100.0%, Any two <<What Rizen should be shoving</TD></TR><TR><TD><TD>BU</TD><TD><TD>0.9%, KK+ </TD></TR><TR><TD><TD><TD>SB</TD><TD>0.5%, AA </TD></TR><TR><TD><TD><TD>BB</TD><TD>0.5%, AA </TD></TR><TR><TD><TD>SB</TD><TD><TD>31.4%, 55+ A2s+ A3o+ K4s+ K8o+ Q8s+ Q9o+ J8s+ JTo T9s <<What jolaramon should call with</TD></TR><TR><TD><TD><TD>BB</TD><TD>88.8%, 22+ Tx+ 92s+ 93o+ 82s+ 84o+ 72s+ 74o+ 62s+ 64o+ 52s+ 54o 42s+ <<your overcalling range</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

    Once shorty is involved, you can overcall with a much wider range. This is because your risk of bubbling is diminished significantly.

    This is a call even if the shorty folds. You can call in that instance with: <TABLE class=simple cellSpacing=2 cellPadding=3 border=1><TBODY><TR><TD>BB</TD><TD><TD>11.6%, 66+ A7s+ ATo+ KTs+ KQo </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
    ...assuming you know the shover is on any two. I can promise you that Rizen isn't missing this spot, so it's safe to say you can range him along with Nash.

    Here's another hand that deals with overcalling that will give you some general rules about how to proceed once two players are already in the pot:

    http://www.pocketfives.com/poker-for...646496#3646496
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