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tough hand with 12 left in 100k

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  1. croll103 croll103 is offline

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    Jan 28th, 2009 (1/28/2009 2:35pm)

    Me and plattsburgh have been by the far the most active at the table and are both top 3 in chips. Whats your play with QQ oop after he 4 bets
    pokerstars Game #24353877875: Tournament #135875479, $150+$12 Hold'em No Limit - Level XIX (3000/6000) - 2009/01/28 2:06:20 ET
    Table '135875479 121' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
    Seat 1: croll103 (441079 in chips)
    Seat 2: livin4bball (167087 in chips)
    Seat 3: work on it (292575 in chips)
    Seat 5: cardsfan04 (145963 in chips)
    Seat 6: plattsburgh (353655 in chips)
    Seat 9: fuhrmanp (175813 in chips)
    croll103: posts the ante 600
    livin4bball: posts the ante 600
    work on it: posts the ante 600
    cardsfan04: posts the ante 600
    plattsburgh: posts the ante 600
    fuhrmanp: posts the ante 600
    croll103: posts small blind 3000
    livin4bball: posts big blind 6000
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to croll103 [Qc Qh]
    Patrolman35 [observer] said, "work on it is that rly u?"
    work on it: folds
    cardsfan04: folds
    plattsburgh: raises 10000 to 16000
    fuhrmanp: folds
    croll103: raises 23999 to 39999
    livin4bball: folds
    Patrolman35 [observer] said, "sikk chain bra"
    plattsburgh: raises 49001 to 89000
    croll103:
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  2. patvoytko patvoytko is offline

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    Jan 28th, 2009 (1/28/2009 2:40pm) in reply to croll103

    you are saying hes being overly active, im shipping
  3. Charlamaigne Charlamaigne is offline

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    Jan 28th, 2009 (1/28/2009 2:50pm) in reply to patvoytko

    ^^^^^ this. 1010, JJ, maybe AK imo...
  4. Gags30 Gags30 is offline

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    Jan 28th, 2009 (1/28/2009 2:50pm) in reply to croll103

    well, i'm pretty sure that folding QQ to plattsburgh here is ungodly bad

    but with that being said, you really need a plan for when you 3 bet...3 betting, then being lost when you get 4 bet is terribly bad
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  5. croll103 croll103 is offline

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    Jan 28th, 2009 (1/28/2009 2:57pm) in reply to Gags30

    i knew what i was gonna do if i got 4 bet i was just wondering what others think here. Also he hasnt got out of line yet and this is the first time he has 4 bet and the size of his 4 bet is so small. would folding here really be that bad considering how deep we are tho?
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  6. I Spew Chips I Spew Chips is offline

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    Jan 28th, 2009 (1/28/2009 2:59pm) in reply to croll103

    I think more important than anything in this hand is the small size of the 4 bet compared to stack sizes.
    You have 40k in and are effectively risking the rest of your 400k stack w a 5 bet shove w QQ. Is he really 4 betting so small here w AK/JJ or less?

    I think fold here is best option.
     
  7. Charlamaigne Charlamaigne is offline

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    Jan 28th, 2009 (1/28/2009 3:04pm) in reply to I Spew Chips

     
    Originally Posted by I Spew Chips View Post

    I think more important than anything in this hand is the small size of the 4 bet compared to stack sizes.
    You have 40k in and are effectively risking the rest of your 400k stack w a 5 bet shove w QQ. Is he really 4 betting so small here w AK/JJ or less?

    I think fold here is best option.

    might be be 4 betting small semi-weak(1010/JJ), to still have stack after 5 bet shove. Ive never played against him so i dont know but that could be an option.
  8. I Spew Chips I Spew Chips is offline

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    Jan 28th, 2009 (1/28/2009 3:09pm) in reply to Charlamaigne

     
    Originally Posted by Charlamaigne View Post

     
    Originally Posted by I Spew Chips View Post

    I think more important than anything in this hand is the small size of the 4 bet compared to stack sizes.
    You have 40k in and are effectively risking the rest of your 400k stack w a 5 bet shove w QQ. Is he really 4 betting so small here w AK/JJ or less?

    I think fold here is best option.

    might be be 4 betting small semi-weak(1010/JJ), to still have stack after 5 bet shove. Ive never played against him so i dont know but that could be an option.

    I highly doubt Platt is 4 betting air here with intentions of folding to a 5 bet shove...
     
  9. lilOUmikey lilOUmikey is offline

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    Jan 28th, 2009 (1/28/2009 3:10pm) in reply to I Spew Chips

     
    Originally Posted by I Spew Chips View Post

    I think more important than anything in this hand is the small size of the 4 bet compared to stack sizes.
    You have 40k in and are effectively risking the rest of your 400k stack w a 5 bet shove w QQ. Is he really 4 betting so small here w AK/JJ or less?

    I think fold here is best option.

    appropriate name

    shove here all day
  10. I Spew Chips I Spew Chips is offline

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    Jan 28th, 2009 (1/28/2009 3:28pm) in reply to lilOUmikey

     
    Originally Posted by lilOUmikey View Post

     
    Originally Posted by I Spew Chips View Post

    I think more important than anything in this hand is the small size of the 4 bet compared to stack sizes.
    You have 40k in and are effectively risking the rest of your 400k stack w a 5 bet shove w QQ. Is he really 4 betting so small here w AK/JJ or less?

    I think fold here is best option.

    appropriate name

    shove here all day

    Thanks.

    And why shove all day besides the fact you hold two picture cards?
     
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    Jan 28th, 2009 (1/28/2009 3:32pm) in reply to I Spew Chips

     
    Originally Posted by I Spew Chips View Post

     
    Originally Posted by lilOUmikey View Post

     
    Originally Posted by I Spew Chips View Post

    I think more important than anything in this hand is the small size of the 4 bet compared to stack sizes.
    You have 40k in and are effectively risking the rest of your 400k stack w a 5 bet shove w QQ. Is he really 4 betting so small here w AK/JJ or less?

    I think fold here is best option.

    appropriate name

    shove here all day

    Thanks.

    And why shove all day besides the fact you hold two picture cards?

    cause we have two picture cards that match, LDO
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  12. benvo123 benvo123 is offline

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    Jan 28th, 2009 (1/28/2009 3:39pm) in reply to Gags30

    i would probably snap shove and then vomit all over my keyboard and/or throw it at the wall... either way im bubbling a final table and am out a laptop :/
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  13. dank773 dank773 is offline

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    Jan 28th, 2009 (1/28/2009 3:44pm) in reply to benvo123

    He probably has aces, fold.
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