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Tough preflop Spot with JJ.

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  1. GSUDrunk GSUDrunk is offline

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    May 7th, 2010 (5/7/2010 6:24pm)

    Full Tilt Poker Game #20657619427: MiniFTOPS Event #1 (147675753), Table 642 - 1700/3400 Ante 400 - No Limit Hold'em - 17:50:48 ET - 2010/05/07

    Seat 1: Alexhorton1991 (71,555)

    Seat 2: Blom90 (119,136)

    Seat 3: qbaq8 (122,920)

    Seat 4: sonicdeep (146,587)

    Seat 5: 1GSUDrunk1 (106,974)

    Seat 6: Hormoon (93,849)

    Seat 7: CheapShot-Motta (103,144)

    Seat 8: brignt (193,806)

    Seat 9: Atuth (16,774)

    Alexhorton1991 antes 400

    Blom90 antes 400

    qbaq8 antes 400

    sonicdeep antes 400

    1GSUDrunk1 antes 400

    Hormoon antes 400

    CheapShot-Motta antes 400

    brignt antes 400

    Atuth antes 400

    sonicdeep posts the small blind of 1,700

    1GSUDrunk1 posts the big blind of 3,400

    The button is in seat #3

    *** HOLE CARDS ***

    Dealt to 1GSUDrunk1 [Jd Jh]

    playmanTS (Observer): potomu i derzgy ego

    Hormoon folds

    CheapShot-Motta folds

    brignt has 15 seconds left to act

    sonicdeep: mojno i tak skazatb

    brignt raises to 10,200

    Atuth raises to 16,374, and is all in

    Alexhorton1991 folds

    Blom90 folds

    qbaq8 raises to 122,520, and is all in

    sonicdeep folds

    1GSUDrunk1 has 15 seconds left to act

    1GSUDrunk1 has requested TIME

    1GSUDrunk1 ???

    What kind of range does qbaq8 Have here ?

    No reads moved here like 15 hands ago.
  2. rayfox111 rayfox111 is offline

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    May 7th, 2010 (5/7/2010 7:38pm) in reply to GSUDrunk

    Assuming standard play at the table.
    FWIW as I dont play at this level!

    My ranges are:-
    Bright- 88+, AQo+
    Abuth- TT+, AQo+
    Qbaq8- JJ+, AKo+

    I think he probably has QQ+ and its a reluctant fold.
  3. KillerFost KillerFost is offline

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    May 7th, 2010 (5/7/2010 7:55pm) in reply to GSUDrunk

    gross spot but i think you gotta fold here
  4. mattdb9er mattdb9er is offline

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    May 7th, 2010 (5/7/2010 8:27pm) in reply to KillerFost

    just off the top of my head , without thought looks like AK , tough spot fo sho tho
     
  5. prodi84 prodi84 is offline

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    May 7th, 2010 (5/7/2010 8:29pm) in reply to rayfox111

     
    Originally Posted by rayfox111 View Post


    Assuming standard play at the table.
    FWIW as I dont play at this level!

    My ranges are:-
    Bright- 88+, AQo+
    Abuth- TT+, AQo+
    Qbaq8- JJ+, AKo+

    I think he probably has QQ+ and its a reluctant fold.

    How would Abuth's range be that high? his stack is tiny. I'd fold jacks in this position, though.
  6. s.l. halper s.l. halper is offline

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    May 7th, 2010 (5/7/2010 9:00pm) in reply to prodi84

    This has to be a fold even in a world of airy 3-bets, 4-bets and 10-bets.
     
  7. GSUDrunk GSUDrunk is offline

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    May 7th, 2010 (5/7/2010 9:06pm) in reply to s.l. halper

     
    Originally Posted by s.l. halper View Post


    This has to be a fold even in a world of airy 3-bets, 4-bets and 10-bets.

    Do you call QQ here ?
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  8. s.l. halper s.l. halper is offline

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    May 7th, 2010 (5/7/2010 9:18pm) in reply to GSUDrunk

     
    Originally Posted by GSUDrunk View Post


    Do you call QQ here ?

    Hating life but yes, just because it removes the QQ in a big way from the respective ranges, possibly adds JJ and increases the likelihood of AK.
     
  9. AntiClimacus AntiClimacus is offline

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    May 7th, 2010 (5/7/2010 9:28pm) in reply to s.l. halper

     
    Originally Posted by s.l. halper View Post

    Hating life but yes, just because it removes the QQ in a big way from the respective ranges, possibly adds JJ and increases the likelihood of AK.

    In my limited experience with $20/tourneys, this could be anything from 88 to AA, for either party, but I'm pry sending jj against the AQo and 10 10., pry why i suck tho.
  10. cbo smooth cbo smooth is offline

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    May 8th, 2010 (5/8/2010 4:33am) in reply to GSUDrunk

    easy fold, if i remember staks right,
  11. H0LDiT H0LDiT is offline

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    May 8th, 2010 (5/8/2010 12:23pm) in reply to GSUDrunk

    ez fold
  12. trist23 trist23 is offline

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    May 8th, 2010 (5/8/2010 2:25pm) in reply to GSUDrunk

    I would just fold....best case he has AK, maybe TT but I doubt it.....With all the dead money in this tourney & you sitting on a 30bb stack you can probably wait for a better spot....
     
  13. whitechoclate whitechoclate is offline

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    May 8th, 2010 (5/8/2010 5:04pm) in reply to GSUDrunk

    i fold but im tight todd.what happened
  14. ZenEnso ZenEnso is offline

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    May 8th, 2010 (5/8/2010 5:33pm) in reply to GSUDrunk

    I'm only calling QQ+ here. JJ sucks. You wait forever for the J's and then all this action happens and everytime I call in this type of spot, I end up regretting it, even if I am up against 1010 and AKo.
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