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  1. croll103 croll103 is offline

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    Apr 30th, 2009 (4/30/2009 11:30pm)

    no reads just got moved to the table 3 hands before... whats ur play and why

    pokerstars Game #27683648886: Tournament #158061338, $150+$12 Hold'em No Limit - Level IX (200/400) - 2009/04/30 23:24:26 ET
    Table '158061338 58' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
    Seat 1: AnthonyyKimm (5180 in chips)
    Seat 2: gyr1 (8370 in chips)
    Seat 3: croll103 (15090 in chips)
    Seat 4: Trent55 (21320 in chips)
    Seat 5: shepherdhead (13655 in chips)
    Seat 6: Blue Knight1 (32128 in chips)
    Seat 7: kidpoker406 (1963 in chips)
    Seat 8: nomorebeats (8620 in chips)
    Seat 9: stankee1 (11120 in chips)
    AnthonyyKimm: posts the ante 50
    gyr1: posts the ante 50
    croll103: posts the ante 50
    Trent55: posts the ante 50
    shepherdhead: posts the ante 50
    Blue Knight1: posts the ante 50
    kidpoker406: posts the ante 50
    nomorebeats: posts the ante 50
    stankee1: posts the ante 50
    croll103: posts small blind 200
    Trent55: posts big blind 400
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to croll103 [Js Jh]
    kidpoker406 said, "no wonder ur crushing this month"
    shepherdhead: raises 1200 to 1600
    Blue Knight1: folds
    kidpoker406: folds
    nomorebeats: folds
    stankee1: folds
    AnthonyyKimm: folds
    gyr1: folds
    croll103
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  2. Goldenad Goldenad is offline

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    Apr 30th, 2009 (4/30/2009 11:36pm) in reply to croll103

    keep in mind that im a weaktight nit, but i fold here.

    1. you have no read on the villain, and although hes raising 4x utg (which makes me think hes bad),

    2. you dont have the odds to set mine,

    3. if you smoothcall, youre going to be out of position,

    4. raise/folding is clearly bad,

    5. and raise/calling means youre potentially going to get it in with almost 40bb with jacks. i suppose thats not the biggest crime in the world, but against a somewhat competent utg, his range is probably going to be 99+, AQ+

    there is always an argument for smoothcalling and playin postflop poker. i just happen to suck at this
     
  3. poisoneye1986 poisoneye1986 is offline

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    Apr 30th, 2009 (4/30/2009 11:37pm) in reply to croll103

    i would call and check raise most flops
  4. darkhawk-200 darkhawk-200 is offline

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    May 1st, 2009 (5/1/2009 12:51am) in reply to poisoneye1986

    with no reads, call

    with a good range, i'd 3 bet call or fold.
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  5. Leet8s Leet8s is offline usausausausausa

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    May 1st, 2009 (5/1/2009 12:55am) in reply to darkhawk-200

    4X BB open = AJss-AK and 88-JJ
     
  6. Shrubbery Shrubbery is offline

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    May 1st, 2009 (5/1/2009 1:30am) in reply to Goldenad

     
    Originally Posted by Goldenad View Post

    keep in mind that im a weaktight nit, but i fold here.

    1. you have no read on the villain, and although hes raising 4x utg (which makes me think hes bad),

    2. you dont have the odds to set mine,

    3. if you smoothcall, youre going to be out of position,

    4. raise/folding is clearly bad,

    5. and raise/calling means youre potentially going to get it in with almost 40bb with jacks. i suppose thats not the biggest crime in the world, but against a somewhat competent utg, his range is probably going to be 99+, AQ+

    there is always an argument for smoothcalling and playin postflop poker. i just happen to suck at this

    def not folding
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  7. PokerSkill112 PokerSkill112 is offline

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    May 1st, 2009 (5/1/2009 3:08pm) in reply to croll103

    i would consider two lines.

    1) Flat and check raise the flop when the low cards hit

    2) shove all in pre flop. if you like to get a commanding stack.

    I definitely would not 3 bet in this situation

    I would flat personally and evaluate on the flop
  8. CLS_Rocket CLS_Rocket is offline

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    May 1st, 2009 (5/1/2009 3:10pm) in reply to PokerSkill112

    call.
  9. doubledave22 doubledave22 is offline

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    May 1st, 2009 (5/1/2009 3:12pm) in reply to CLS_Rocket

    ya just flat and get it in on good boards, u dont gain as much value preflop as u can postflop maybe im wrong
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