Really no reads on villain, hasen't been at the table very long...I've seen him raise 2.5x a couple times but that's about it. I decide to flat and see a flop trying to disguise my hand a little bit and stay out of a huge pot preflop. With the action on the flop what's your move here?

Full Tilt Poker Game #15429222259: The $200K Double Deuce (108516392), Table 353 - 500/1000 Ante 125 - No Limit Hold'em - 19:47:43 ET - 2009/10/18
Seat 1: cincyreds07 (34,048)
Seat 2: nut suit (4,295)
Seat 3: Pvilleplaya (9,192)
Seat 4: bobshiell (38,806)
Seat 5: s_l_halper (52,367)
Seat 6: Wild_Wild_Panda (22,380)
Seat 7: the_dose101 (29,447)
Seat 8: metfan4590 (17,268)
Seat 9: dUnnR06 (52,565)
cincyreds07 antes 125
nut suit antes 125
Pvilleplaya antes 125
bobshiell antes 125
s_l_halper antes 125
Wild_Wild_Panda antes 125
the_dose101 antes 125
metfan4590 antes 125
dUnnR06 antes 125
Pvilleplaya posts the small blind of 500
bobshiell posts the big blind of 1,000
The button is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to dUnnR06 [Qd Qc]
s_l_halper raises to 2,455
Wild_Wild_Panda folds
the_dose101 folds
metfan4590 folds
dUnnR06 has 15 seconds left to act
dUnnR06 calls 2,455
cincyreds07 folds
nut suit folds
Pvilleplaya folds
bobshiell calls 1,455
*** FLOP *** [6s Jh 3d]
bobshiell has 15 seconds left to act
bobshiell bets 6,000
s_l_halper calls 6,000
dUnnR06 has 15 seconds left to act
dUnnR06 ???????

Full Tilt Poker Game #15429222259: The $200K Double Deuce (108516392), Table 353 - 500/1000 Ante 125 - No Limit Hold'em - 19:47:43 ET - 2009/10/18
Seat 1: cincyreds07 (34,048)
Seat 2: nut suit (4,295)
Seat 3: Pvilleplaya (9,192)
Seat 4: bobshiell (38,806)
Seat 5: s_l_halper (52,367)
Seat 6: Wild_Wild_Panda (22,380)
Seat 7: the_dose101 (29,447)
Seat 8: metfan4590 (17,268)
Seat 9: dUnnR06 (52,565)
cincyreds07 antes 125
nut suit antes 125
Pvilleplaya antes 125
bobshiell antes 125
s_l_halper antes 125
Wild_Wild_Panda antes 125
the_dose101 antes 125
metfan4590 antes 125
dUnnR06 antes 125
Pvilleplaya posts the small blind of 500
bobshiell posts the big blind of 1,000
The button is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to dUnnR06 [Qd Qc]
s_l_halper raises to 2,455
Wild_Wild_Panda folds
the_dose101 folds
metfan4590 folds
dUnnR06 has 15 seconds left to act
dUnnR06 calls 2,455
cincyreds07 folds
nut suit folds
Pvilleplaya folds
bobshiell calls 1,455
*** FLOP *** [6s Jh 3d]
bobshiell has 15 seconds left to act
bobshiell bets 6,000
s_l_halper calls 6,000
dUnnR06 has 15 seconds left to act
dUnnR06 raises to 16,000
bobshiell has 15 seconds left to act
bobshiell folds
s_l_halper has 15 seconds left to act
s_l_halper raises to 49,787, and is all in
dUnnR06 has 15 seconds left to act
dUnnR06 has requested TIME

Ok...now what?

 

Originally Posted by dUnnR

Ok...now what?

fold and berate

 

Originally Posted by GolferKris

fold and berate

+1

I'd love to hear some more discussion. I'll post my version of the hand and thoughts either later tonight or tomorrow. I'm still in this silly time waster of a tourney.

Still think you should 3 bet pre.. Your going to get value. Id rather play a huge hand pre-flop with the third best hand in poker rather than play a huge pot post flop with only one pair and two others in the hand. Just saying. I dont think you should be raising for info. You should be raising for value.. I dont give anyone credit for a hand especially in this tourney with alot of satty feeders in.. If im raising there im intending to get it all in.. Unless an absolute shitstorm breaks out. Meaning they both snap shove all in.. Then I might a fold..

Great run dunnR- railed your table from about 100 on and it looked like you played exceptionally. That was an absolutely brutal way to go out- I felt sick as well.

Not that it matters to you now, but I had the blade in this hand.

<span>Full Tilt Poker Game #15429222259: The $200K Double Deuce (108516392), Table 353 - 500/1000 Ante 125 - No Limit Hold'em - 19:47:43 ET - 2009/10/18</span>

<span>Seat 1: cincyreds07 (34,048)</span>

<span>Seat 2: nut suit (4,295)</span>

<span>Seat 3: Pvilleplaya (9,192)</span>

<span>Seat 4: bobshiell (38,806)</span>

<span>Seat 5: s_l_halper (52,367)</span>

<span>Seat 6: Wild_Wild_Panda (22,380)</span>

<span>Seat 7: the_dose101 (29,447)</span>

<span>Seat 8: metfan4590 (17,268)</span>

<span>Seat 9: dUnnR06 (52,565)</span>

<span>cincyreds07 antes 125</span>

<span>nut suit antes 125</span>

<span>Pvilleplaya antes 125</span>

<span>bobshiell antes 125</span>

<span>s_l_halper antes 125</span>

<span>Wild_Wild_Panda antes 125</span>

<span>the_dose101 antes 125</span>

<span>metfan4590 antes 125</span>

<span>dUnnR06 antes 125</span>

<span>Pvilleplaya posts the small blind of 500</span>

<span>bobshiell posts the big blind of 1,000</span>

<span>The button is in seat #2</span>

<span>*** HOLE CARDS ***</span>

<span>Dealt to s_l_halper [Ac Ad]</span>

<span>s_l_halper raises to 2,455</span>

<span>Wild_Wild_Panda folds</span>

<span>the_dose101 folds</span>

<span>metfan4590 folds</span>

<span>dUnnR06 has 15 seconds left to act</span>

<span>dUnnR06 calls 2,455</span>

<span>cincyreds07 folds</span>

<span>nut suit folds</span>

<span>Pvilleplaya folds</span>

<span>bobshiell calls 1,455</span>

<span>*** FLOP *** [6s Jh 3d]</span>

<span>bobshiell has 15 seconds left to act</span>

<span>bobshiell bets 6,000</span>

<span>s_l_halper calls 6,000</span>

<span>dUnnR06 has 15 seconds left to act</span>

<span>dUnnR06 raises to 16,000</span>

<span>bobshiell has 15 seconds left to act</span>

<span>bobshiell folds</span>

<span>s_l_halper has 15 seconds left to act</span>

<span>s_l_halper raises to 49,787, and is all in</span>

<span>dUnnR06 has 15 seconds left to act</span>

<span>dUnnR06 has requested TIME</span>

<span>dUnnR06 has timed out</span>

<span>dUnnR06 folds</span>

<span>dUnnR06 is sitting out</span>

<span>Uncalled bet of 33,787 returned to s_l_halper</span>

<span>s_l_halper mucks</span>

<span>dUnnR06 has returned</span>

<span>s_l_halper wins the pot (46,990)</span>

<span>*** SUMMARY ***</span>

<span>Total pot 46,990 | Rake 0</span>

<span>Board: [6s Jh 3d]</span>

<span>Seat 1: cincyreds07 folded before the Flop</span>

<span>Seat 2: nut suit (button) folded before the Flop</span>

<span>Seat 3: Pvilleplaya (small blind) folded before the Flop</span>

<span>Seat 4: bobshiell (big blind) folded on the Flop</span>

<span>Seat 5: s_l_halper collected (46,990), mucked</span>

<span>Seat 6: Wild_Wild_Panda folded before the Flop</span>

<span>Seat 7: the_dose101 folded before the Flop</span>

<span>Seat 8: metfan4590 folded before the Flop</span>

<span>Seat 9: dUnnR06 folded on the Flop</span>

Pretty simple stuff. I was not too concerned with your flat. I figured you were deep enough to spec most decent pps and some broadway. I was really happy that the BB called- I opr'd him before the hand and realized that he has literally played only 100 tournaments over 4 sites in his life with no success. I was confident he was going to pay me for hitting any part of the board. Frankly, he was my focus in the hand. I had bullied his limps a bunch of times before with any 2. When he donked the flop I was obviously even happier because he hit the board and was going to let me walk the dog and give me all of his chips either on the turn or river. (If you remember, he said he folded AJ and wasn't a tricky enough player to be lying). Once you raised I figured either your pp was over the J or the J hit you as well. Nothing too complicated. Just trying to stack you. For your sake, it was a good fold and a nice run afterwards until that idiot ruined your night with T7>KK.

As for your play, I think you played it fine. If you 3 bet me there, I probably flat and get your stack on the flop unless BB cold calls, then I probably get one or both of you to call a 4-bet shove. There is no good answer and you got away at the right time. See you in the next one.

Pretty sick how it went down in the end...I truely want to vomit.
10,718 Entries..9 hours worth of owning noobs..And this is how I FT bubble.

Full Tilt Poker Game #15435334395: The $200K Double Deuce (108516392), Table 48 - 50K/100K Ante 10K - No Limit Hold'em - 1:19:34 ET - 2009/10/19
Seat 1: Chezebby (6,036,510)
Seat 2: woodpigeon (2,098,773)
Seat 3: dUnnR06 (1,282,256)
Seat 4: totsev (1,285,351)
Seat 6: Agema2007 (1,132,958)
Seat 7: slikone (6,629,232)
Seat 8: JetYourChips (1,408,393)
Chezebby antes 10,000
woodpigeon antes 10,000
dUnnR06 antes 10,000
totsev antes 10,000
Agema2007 antes 10,000
slikone antes 10,000
JetYourChips antes 10,000
JetYourChips posts the small blind of 50,000
Chezebby posts the big blind of 100,000
The button is in seat #7
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to dUnnR06 [Kd Kh]
Colin Ducklow (Observer): that is how a man steals
woodpigeon folds
dUnnR06 has 15 seconds left to act
dUnnR06 raises to 237,000
totsev folds
Agema2007 folds
totsev: out of the tourney?
slikone raises to 374,000
JetYourChips folds
totsev: that is how a man comments
Chezebby folds
dUnnR06 raises to 1,272,256, and is all in
slikone calls 898,256
dUnnR06 shows [Kd Kh]
slikone shows [Tc 7c]
*** FLOP *** [Qh Th 6d]
*** TURN *** [Qh Th 6d] [3h]
*** RIVER *** [Qh Th 6d 3h] [7d]
dUnnR06 shows a pair of Kings
slikone shows two pair, Tens and Sevens
slikone wins the pot (2,764,512) with two pair, Tens and Sevens
Colin Ducklow (Observer): thats how a man isnt lucky as %&#!.. i can tell by your min raise that you are garbage
dUnnR06 stands up
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2,764,512 | Rake 0
Board: [Qh Th 6d 3h 7d]
Seat 1: Chezebby (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 2: woodpigeon folded before the Flop
Seat 3: dUnnR06 showed [Kd Kh] and lost with a pair of Kings
Seat 4: totsev folded before the Flop
Seat 6: Agema2007 folded before the Flop
Seat 7: slikone (button) showed [Tc 7c] and won (2,764,512) with two pair, Tens and Sevens
Seat 8: JetYourChips (small blind) folded before the Flop