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  1. milesaway86 milesaway86 is offline

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    Sep 21st, 2007 (9/21/2007 6:52pm)

    pokerstars Game #12191106588: Tournament #61161283, $20+$2 Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2007/09/21 - 18:42:53 (ET)
    Table '61161283 30' 6-max Seat #1 is the button
    Seat 1: milesaway86 (5110 in chips)
    Seat 2: johnQpoker99 (5850 in chips)
    Seat 3: Super_Smoo (5345 in chips)
    Seat 4: fulltime 2 (5535 in chips)
    Seat 5: keithfolds2 (5045 in chips)
    Seat 6: Kaylis420 (3095 in chips)
    johnQpoker99: posts small blind 10
    Super_Smoo: posts big blind 20
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to milesaway86 [Ac Jc]
    fulltime 2: folds
    keithfolds2: calls 20
    Kaylis420: raises 50 to 70
    milesaway86: raises 130 to 200
    Kaylis420 said, "most ppl think england"
    johnQpoker99: folds
    Super_Smoo: folds
    keithfolds2: calls 180
    Kaylis420: calls 130
    *** FLOP *** [3c Kc 4d]
    keithfolds2: checks
    fulltime 2 said, "i was gonna guess that"
    Kaylis420: bets 560
    milesaway86: calls 560
    keithfolds2: folds
    *** TURN *** [3c Kc 4d] [Qs]
    Kaylis420: bets 2335 and is all-in
    milesaway86: ????

    ahhhhh
  2. Numskull21 Numskull21 is offline

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    Sep 21st, 2007 (9/21/2007 7:13pm) in reply to milesaway86

    Fold. And don't reraise with AJs preflop in this situation ever.
  3. mrniphty mrniphty is offline

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    Sep 21st, 2007 (9/21/2007 7:48pm) in reply to milesaway86

    I dont like repopping pre here. But if you do see a flop given those conditions, you need to be repopping his bet on the flop. What exactly did you think he was going to do on the turn after you called a flop bet that was more than 20% of his stack? You need to be repopping on the flop, keeping representation consistency postflop.

    However, if you just cold call the 70 pre, youre now drawing to 9 nut outs, with a pot thats more around the 250 range instead of 6 outs. You have position and a pot that people wont push at on the flop.

    edit

    didnt see it was a button pop, that line is fine, but I still think you need to be raising the flop.
     
  4. FishOnTilt FishOnTilt is offline

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    Sep 21st, 2007 (9/21/2007 8:39pm) in reply to mrniphty

    if your gonna reraise preflop here(which you shouldnt do) then you should shove flop.
     
  5. Happosai_AA Happosai_AA is offline

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    Sep 21st, 2007 (9/21/2007 8:59pm) in reply to milesaway86

    The only reason this is a tough spot is because you made it tough on yourself. why u would want to call 560 on that flop is beyond me. next time instead of reraising with aj preflop, just call, that way you keep the pot smaller, so that if you wanna float the flop with no pair no draw you wont be facing anywhere near as big a bet.

    i have a question for you tho, what exactly was your reasoning for

    1) reraising preflop

    2) calling 560 on the flop

    ?
  6. WestSide650 WestSide650 is offline

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    Sep 21st, 2007 (9/21/2007 9:58pm) in reply to Happosai_AA

    youre a moron u shouldnt be in that hand past the call preflop
  7. ipwntable ipwntable is offline

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    Sep 21st, 2007 (9/21/2007 11:45pm) in reply to WestSide650

    smooth call preflop in position cuz Kay has KK, but if i was gonna call a lil over 3/4 pot sized bet on flop, i'd be prepared t go all the way, especially when the turn gives me more outs..
  8. 99NvrLosez 99NvrLosez is offline

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    Sep 22nd, 2007 (9/22/2007 2:26pm) in reply to Numskull21

    FOLD...U HAVE SO MANY CHIPS....AND WHY ARE YOU RERAISING PREFLOP....THERE IS NO REASON FOR IT AT ALL...
  9. BerkeleyBoss BerkeleyBoss is offline

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    Sep 22nd, 2007 (9/22/2007 2:39pm) in reply to ipwntable

    if you're gonna reraise that preflop in that position, which you shouldn't, then you should most definately raise the flop to continue to represent AA/AK....ur not folding..so raise, call shove, glgl
     
  10. Sokpuppet7 Sokpuppet7 is offline

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    Sep 22nd, 2007 (9/22/2007 2:42pm) in reply to WestSide650

    westside, you're even more of a moron for posting a ridiculously pointless reply... if your life is so dull that you have to find others that you think you're better than and then rag on them, then perhaps you should give suicide some serious consideration....

    To the OP: you should NEVER re-raise this hand preflop... W/ stacks this deep, I definately advocate a call preflop though... If he leads out on the flop after this, you need to re-raise and fold to a shove by him. If he raises small, use odds to dictate whether or not its a call or a fold...
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