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Tough spot with JJ early.

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  1. KnotStoopid KnotStoopid is offline

    Parkville, MD
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    Jul 3rd, 2009 (7/3/2009 1:46pm)

    $22 675 person MTT

    He hasn't really played a hand up until this point. LMK what you think or how I could've played the hand better.

    pokerstars Game #30055636078: Tournament #175252949, $20+$2 Hold'em No Limit - Level IV (25/50) - 2009/07/03 13:35:16 ET
    Table '175252949 70' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
    Seat 1: Nicklon777 (2700 in chips)
    Seat 2: Knot Stoopid (3195 in chips)
    Seat 3: gavrosh80 (4030 in chips)
    Seat 4: TSchmidt90 (3100 in chips)
    Seat 5: heinekenofzo (5970 in chips)
    Seat 6: colah (2010 in chips)
    Seat 7: kassaig (3000 in chips)
    Seat 8: Numero123 (3378 in chips)
    Seat 9: USAWSOP08 (3800 in chips)
    heinekenofzo: posts small blind 25
    colah: posts big blind 50
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to Knot Stoopid [Jc Jd]
    kassaig: folds
    Numero123 has timed out while being disconnected
    Numero123: folds
    Numero123 is sitting out
    USAWSOP08: folds
    Nicklon777: raises 100 to 150
    Knot Stoopid: calls 150
    gavrosh80: folds
    TSchmidt90: folds
    Numero123 is disconnected
    heinekenofzo: folds
    colah: calls 100
    *** FLOP *** [6h 5d 4h]
    colah: checks
    Nicklon777: bets 200
    Knot Stoopid: raises 400 to 600
    colah: folds
    Nicklon777: raises 1950 to 2550 and is all-in
    Knot Stoopid: folds
    Uncalled bet (1950) returned to Nicklon777
    Nicklon777 collected 1675 from pot
    Nicklon777: doesn't show hand
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 1675 | Rake 0
    Board [6h 5d 4h]
    Seat 1: Nicklon777 collected (1675)
    Seat 2: Knot Stoopid folded on the Flop
    Seat 3: gavrosh80 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 4: TSchmidt90 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 5: heinekenofzo (small blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 6: colah (big blind) folded on the Flop
    Seat 7: kassaig folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 8: Numero123 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 9: USAWSOP08 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
  2. stackdown stackdown is offline

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    Jul 3rd, 2009 (7/3/2009 4:18pm) in reply to KnotStoopid

    A re-raise PF anywhere b/w 300-500 is tha move with JJ here. Folding to yer opponents all-in shove after flop is way too conservative. Also maybe include reads imo. Villain had anywhere from Ah with Kh,Qh,Jh or A6, perhaps even a pair Tens-Sevens. Get your chips in and play more aggressive.
  3. lordxixor101 lordxixor101 is offline

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    Jul 6th, 2009 (7/6/2009 11:17am) in reply to KnotStoopid

    Yeah, I think this is the problem without reraising preflop. Hard to really nail down a hand here.

    I think there are tons of potential hands he has that your beating. Would he play 1010 or 99 much different? Also, you said he hasn't played a hand yet, over how many have you sat with him? If he hasn't played one over 15 hands, that isn't saying too much (could be a bit card dead). If he hasn't played in 100, then he's probably a tighter player.

    Since you didn't reraise preflop, you have a low connected board, and he pushes your raise. In reality, I have no idea what to make of this. People cbet most boards, so your raise could mean anything (you figured he missed) so he's coming over the top. I think he could have AK no draws here. He might have QQ-AA, could have AK, AQ, heart draw, 77.

    You have to call here.
  4. 8ntmuch 8ntmuch is offline

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    Jul 6th, 2009 (7/6/2009 3:50pm) in reply to lordxixor101

     
    Originally Posted by lordxixor101 View Post


    You have to call here.

    Pretty much all that needs to be said. You beat more then whats beating you here IMO. If he has QQ+ then just unlucky. I see AQ+, 88-1010 a lot here too.
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