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Tough (?) spot with JJ in UB three hundo 6max

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  1. Strong Play Strong Play is offline

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    Jul 8th, 2010 (7/8/2010 12:52am)

    Ok, so this is the first time I have played this tourney, I usually wouldnt play a 300 6m, and this is prob why :/...

    Stage #266346866 Tourney ID 5629833 Holdem Multi Normal Tournament No Limit 400 - 2010-07-07 00:32:47 (ET)
    Table: 7 (Real Money) Seat #5 is the dealer
    Seat 1 - HERO (27,771 in chips)
    Seat 2 - ZMAN2224 (53,797 in chips)
    Seat 3 - LUCKY-7 (29,783 in chips)
    Seat 4 - DELANEY_KID (32,488 in chips)
    Seat 5 - PALACE23 (67,581 in chips)
    Seat 6 - BIGDOGPCKT5S (25,989 in chips)
    ZMAN2224 - Ante 50
    LUCKY-7 - Ante 50
    DELANEY_KID - Ante 50
    PALACE23 - Ante 50
    BIGDOGPCKT5S - Ante 50
    HERO - Ante 50
    BIGDOGPCKT5S - Posts small blind 200
    HERO - Posts big blind 400
    *** POCKET CARDS ***
    Dealt to HERO [Jc Jd]
    ZMAN2224 - Folds
    LUCKY-7 - Raises 1,000 to 1,000
    DELANEY_KID - Raises 2,711 to 2,711
    PALACE23 - Calls 2,711
    BIGDOGPCKT5S - Raises 6,300 to 6,500
    HERO ?????

    We all know bigdog and delaney are quite laggy, the cold flat from the in-between player scares me a bunch...

    Will post results later tonight but just looking to get some input as it was a real "um, nothing seems good here" spot...

    BTW my image would be on the tighter side and I dont recall getting out of line...

    Cheers
    SP.
    Edited By: Strong Play Jul 8th, 2010 at 07:57 AM
  2. okse54 okse54 is offline

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    Jul 8th, 2010 (7/8/2010 1:25am) in reply to Strong Play

    i would fold
     
  3. Strong Play Strong Play is offline

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    Jul 8th, 2010 (7/8/2010 3:59am) in reply to okse54

    how do we feel about QQ here?
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  4. foolishgolf foolishgolf is offline

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    Jul 8th, 2010 (7/8/2010 7:07am) in reply to Strong Play

    These are 3 of the most agressive players I know. And 2 of them run unreal lol. But to be honest I dont think folding is a bad option. On the other hand I dont think Shoving is terribly bad either. I think It would depend on how the players had been playing at the time and wheather i felt i was good. But I think either option is fine in this exact situation.
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    Jul 8th, 2010 (7/8/2010 7:51am) in reply to Strong Play

    results:

    HERO - folds
    LUCKY-7 - Folds
    DELANEY_KID - Folds
    PALACE23 - Calls 3,789
    *** FLOP *** [Kh 2h 5d]
    PALACE23 - Checks
    BIGDOGPCKT5S - All-In 19,439
    PALACE23 - Calls 19,439
    *** TURN *** [Kh 2h 5d] [Qs]
    *** RIVER *** [Kh 2h 5d Qs] [Ks]
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    PALACE23 - Shows [2s 2d] (Full house, twos full of kings)
    BIGDOGPCKT5S - Shows [5c 9h] (Two Pair, kings and fives)
    PALACE23 Collects 55,839 from main pot
    *** SUMMARY ***

    I'm pretty sure folding is fine tho...
    Edited By: Strong Play Jul 8th, 2010 at 07:54 AM
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  6. snowman2k6 snowman2k6 is offline DO NOT TRADE -- MONEY TRANSFER SCAMMER

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    Jul 8th, 2010 (7/8/2010 7:57am) in reply to Strong Play

    lmaooooo id prolly muck jj tho n qq shove
  7. matze_widi matze_widi is offline

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    Jul 8th, 2010 (7/8/2010 8:07am) in reply to Strong Play

     
    Originally Posted by Strong Play View Post

    "um, nothing seems good here" spot...

    if i feel that way i usually tend to fold my hand and stay out of marginal spots..
    ul u fold the winner, happens tho, dont let results touch your game
     
  8. poisoneye1986 poisoneye1986 is offline

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    Jul 8th, 2010 (7/8/2010 4:28pm) in reply to matze_widi

    i looked at this hand last hoping for a big discussion kinda disappointed you showed the results. i think i woulda shoved like JJ+ AQ+ knowing nothing about table dynamics and just going off their reputations. these are 2 of the most aggro players in the game but bigdog could be viewing the situation differently than you. would love to know his thought proccess.
  9. CNT_CRUSHER CNT_CRUSHER is offline

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    Jul 8th, 2010 (7/8/2010 6:08pm) in reply to foolishgolf

     
    Originally Posted by foolishgolf View Post

    These are 3 of the most agressive players I know. And 2 of them run unreal lol. But to be honest I dont think folding is a bad option. On the other hand I dont think Shoving is terribly bad either. I think It would depend on how the players had been playing at the time and wheather i felt i was good. But I think either option is fine in this exact situation.

    Yeh Palace and Bigdog run alright
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    Jul 8th, 2010 (7/8/2010 9:26pm) in reply to poisoneye1986

     
    Originally Posted by poisoneye1986 View Post

    i looked at this hand last hoping for a big discussion kinda disappointed you showed the results. i think i woulda shoved like JJ+ AQ+ knowing nothing about table dynamics and just going off their reputations. these are 2 of the most aggro players in the game but bigdog could be viewing the situation differently than you. would love to know his thought proccess.

    Agree with range here. I was thinking snap shove as well, knowing how light bigdog is doing this...
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