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Tough Spot with a straight flush draw

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  1. Dirtyjb30236 Dirtyjb30236 is offline

    Los Angeles, CA
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    Aug 10th, 2009 (8/10/2009 4:41pm)

    I feel like I should probably just fold here, but not sure what I should do since I have a straight flush draw. Obviously if any club comes out, other than a 2 or 7 Im in big trouble.
    What should be my line here? I feel like calling is bad as I will face a tough decision on the turn, so I think I can really only fold or push here. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

    By the way, this is in the $3r after the rebuy period has ended.

    Thanks

    pokerstars Game #31474423341: Tournament #185960789, $3.00+$0.30 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level X (100/200) - 2009/08/10 16:10:58 ET
    Table '185960789 10' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
    Seat 1: denice92 (8510 in chips)
    Seat 2: LADERA6633 (11735 in chips)
    Seat 3: ccoplaymate (8415 in chips)
    Seat 4: B geesMartin (11840 in chips)
    Seat 5: kocsmas (9820 in chips)
    Seat 6: DirtyJB30236 (8540 in chips)
    Seat 7: finga72 (14910 in chips)
    Seat 8: ggg2ggg (11923 in chips)
    Seat 9: mb 597 (15077 in chips)
    denice92: posts the ante 25
    LADERA6633: posts the ante 25
    ccoplaymate: posts the ante 25
    B geesMartin: posts the ante 25
    kocsmas: posts the ante 25
    DirtyJB30236: posts the ante 25
    finga72: posts the ante 25
    ggg2ggg: posts the ante 25
    mb 597: posts the ante 25
    finga72: posts small blind 100
    ggg2ggg: posts big blind 200
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to DirtyJB30236 [6c 6d]
    mb 597: calls 200
    denice92: calls 200
    LADERA6633: folds
    ccoplaymate: folds
    B geesMartin: folds
    kocsmas: folds
    DirtyJB30236: calls 200
    finga72: calls 100
    ggg2ggg: raises 200 to 400
    mb 597: calls 200
    denice92: calls 200
    DirtyJB30236: calls 200
    finga72: folds
    *** FLOP *** [3c 4c 5c]
    ggg2ggg: checks
    mb 597: checks
    denice92: bets 1000
    DirtyJB30236:????
  2. Ser Davos Ser Davos is offline

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    Aug 10th, 2009 (8/10/2009 6:31pm) in reply to Dirtyjb30236

    ouch this is a tough spot........honestly i cant say what id really do here either. You have over 40 bbs so iam not sure a push would be right here as u could easily be dead to 2 outs. flatting might actually slow him down a bit especially if hes just got 1 big club or an over pair.......and a fold seems bad here also as you do have the nut draw......iam probabley flatting and revalue the turn but iam eager to see what some of the better players would do???
  3. Salamander0 Salamander0 is offline

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    Aug 10th, 2009 (8/10/2009 8:43pm) in reply to Ser Davos

    i dunno, i think i would raise here. either take it down now or get it allin. You are beat by a flush or an overpair with a club, but you could be up against 2 overs with a club or an over pair w/ no club and your ahead of both of those. a set is possible based on the preflop action, you would be flipping with set. nobody showed any real strength preflop so my guess is denice will usually be turning over 2 overs with a club or a set. im not sure if its right but im raising hoping for a fold, and if denice shoves the rest in im calling (obv), expecting KQ with a club, Ax w/ ace of clubs, or something like that. with draws like this you usually want to be aggressive and take advantage of any fold equity you may have. altho i think denice will probly go all the way with the hand. calling might be right tho, lol. calling is safer, but you will lose fold equity, and most of the time the turn card wont help you. You have a strong hand tho so id be fine getting it in. esp in a $3re.
     
  4. JeffOkay JeffOkay is offline

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    Aug 10th, 2009 (8/10/2009 9:12pm) in reply to Dirtyjb30236

    Trouble with flatting here is you are giving odds of 3/1 for the others to join in and the will if they are holding a big club. I think you see trips a lot in this spot, the pot size bet leads me to think that he wants any draws to the flush to be a mistake, but he could also have the nut flush draw himself and is semi bluffing. I also think you have to push or fold. That decision would be dependant on what I have observed but to make desision without a read I fold. We are still sitting with a playable stack.
  5. LordPye LordPye is offline

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    Aug 11th, 2009 (8/11/2009 11:22am) in reply to JeffOkay

    Yackkkkkkk. Ugh. I think you can reraise here to try and take control of the hand. Unfortunately you have to decide how you're gonna go about the rest of the hand before you even make that raise. Will you...

    Reraise and fold to a shove?
    Reraise and call a shove?
    (if simply called) Plan on getting it in on the turn? Fold to scary turns?

    This is a multi-layered problem and the flop is just the start of it. All things considered, I think I puke and then fold on the flop. I just see too many instances where you are destroyed (even something as silly as 7x7c has you killed) and not enough instances where you can play the hand confidently.
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