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Tough spot with top pair

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  1. The Sour Diesel The Sour Diesel is offline

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    Jul 27th, 2007 (7/27/2007 10:10pm)

    pokerstars Game #11171383786: Tournament #56672211, $4.00+$0.40 Hold'em No Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2007/07/27 - 22:05:06 (ET)
    Table '56672211 8' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
    Seat 1: ChessSafari (1670 in chips)
    Seat 2: jeebee (440 in chips)
    Seat 3: raise it9999 (2780 in chips) is sitting out
    Seat 4: bomber2000 (1040 in chips)
    Seat 5: gakins (3330 in chips)
    Seat 6: zenwarrior26 (1570 in chips)
    Seat 7: Enforcer299 (3020 in chips)
    Seat 8: Tapper123 (1320 in chips)
    Seat 9: mag0615 (1810 in chips)
    gakins: posts small blind 15
    zenwarrior26: posts big blind 30
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to zenwarrior26 [7c 8h]
    Tapper123 said, "vnh"
    Enforcer299: folds
    Tapper123: calls 30
    mag0615: calls 30
    ChessSafari: folds
    jeebee: folds
    raise it9999: folds
    bomber2000: folds
    gakins: calls 15
    zenwarrior26: checks
    *** FLOP *** [4d 5c 7h]
    gakins: bets 120
    zenwarrior26: ?

    So if I call im sure limper behind me will too (this is truly a grade A donkament). And if i raise then it puts in me in a tough spot on the turn where any card is a scare card if he calls and leads. How do you deal with this situation?
  2. PiKappRaider PiKappRaider is offline

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    Jul 27th, 2007 (7/27/2007 11:17pm) in reply to The Sour Diesel

    I'd put in a raise to about 360-420. If you get action behind you, you're probably behind. If sb re raises, you can fold. If he leads on turn that's a different decision... but you shouldn't consider any over card a scare card there. If he leads small you can call/re raise depeding on your read... if he bets big and you think ur licked... muck it
     
  3. MetalGod MetalGod is offline

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    Jul 27th, 2007 (7/27/2007 11:41pm) in reply to The Sour Diesel

    raise it up to try and find out where you stand. If they come back over the top, it's time to fold. If they call, you're stuck with an interesting situation on the turn.
  4. another_rack another_rack is offline

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    Jul 28th, 2007 (7/28/2007 12:28am) in reply to The Sour Diesel

    I usually call here. If the limper comes along, oh well.

    The way I see it only thing you're really behind is a set. If you save that raising money for a call on a later street you give yourself a chance to win a bigger pot if you do catch. I just think a raise here is getting worse hands to fold and better hands to come over the top and shut you out. Usually a raise here is to get the draws or the best hand to fold and you may be the guy with both.

    Call, hope for a six, then reevaluate. Don't worry about the limper, If he calls too your increasing your chances of snapping someone off.
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