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tough tough $36 sng bubble spot, easy shove? or fold to cash?

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  1. topdawg235 topdawg235 is offline

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    May 18th, 2009 (5/18/2009 11:28pm)

    Hey all,
    So first please dont tell me "dont get so short or shove sooner" or anything like that. I literally shoved every chance I got. Seat 8 played the SNG flawlessly, and shoved into my BB everytime. Obv i know BB is 100% calling, and sb probably calling my shove also. Look at the buttons stack, he is almost alwyas shoving ATC here, vs 2 opponents, and I can fold to cash a high majority. Or I can let blinds go through me, nad he gets blinded out... I thought this was a really really tough decisions... Is it just about winning or cashing at this point?

    pokerstars Game #28360745899: Tournament #164855759, $35+$3 Hold'em No Limit - Level IX (300/600) - 2009/05/18 22:50:30 ET
    Table '164855759 1' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
    Seat 2: xxxxx (540 in chips)
    Seat 7: xxxxx (4390 in chips)
    Seat 8: xxxxx (7260 in chips)
    Seat 9: Hero (1310 in chips)
    xxxxxxx: posts the ante 50
    xxxxxxx: posts the ante 50
    xxxxxxx: posts the ante 50
    Hero: posts the ante 50
    Seat 7: posts small blind 300
    Seat 8: posts big blind 600
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to Hero [Jh Kc]
    Hero:
     
  2. NetFan44 NetFan44 is offline

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    May 18th, 2009 (5/18/2009 11:33pm) in reply to topdawg235

    i don't think it's really that tough a spot, fold and hope short stack busts in the next 2 hands.
  3. apairinmypoc apairinmypoc is offline

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    May 18th, 2009 (5/18/2009 11:38pm) in reply to topdawg235

    with the button getting so low i dont think he is going to be shoving atc because he knows he gets to look at three hands to decide when to shove and knows he is going to be getting called. You are going to be in big blind next hand with half your stack in and i dont think it would be a good strategy to fold there and hope the big blind(the short stack) loses that hand and you cashwith 410 chips left giving you no chance at winning plus possibly being bubble anyways if short stack ends up doubling up. So i think it would be best to shove and try to double or triple up
     
  4. evilempyr evilempyr is offline

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    May 19th, 2009 (5/19/2009 12:25am) in reply to topdawg235

    with KJ its a fold.. hang around and wait for the shorty to bust. icm says to shove : 4.2%, 99+ AQs+ AKo
  5. RahgStan RahgStan is offline

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    May 19th, 2009 (5/19/2009 12:45am) in reply to topdawg235

    1100 in the pot preflop. A shove by you here makes the pot 2260.

    Strictly looking at the pot odds

    Button - 4 to 1

    SB and BB - 1.7 to 1

    Now that we have the odds, we have to decide whether the SB or BB would be calling off in marginal spots.As for the button, depends on if he is the squeak in the money short stack type where 3rd is as good as 1st.Or is he the type that would be willing to call off in hopes of getting a stack.

    I think its a shove situation.You want to maximize your chance to get 1st, not try and squeak in.If you fold here your left with 700 in a pretty much most calls are right situation for them the next hand.
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