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Toughest spot ive been in, final table on turbo mtt

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  1. tobad4ya tobad4ya is offline

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    Jul 24th, 2007 (7/24/2007 2:27pm)

    Blinds are just so huge its a total crapshoot what do you think, push or fold?

    <pre><tt><tt>pokerstars Game #11110960458: Tournament #56064682, $10+$1 Hold'em No
    Limit - Level XXIII (20000/40000) - 2007/07/24 - 14:15:48 (ET)
    Table '56064682 85' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
    Seat 2: MOE10019 (216648 in chips)
    Seat 4: djonkoboy (225563 in chips)
    Seat 5: crosscourtbh (325178 in chips)
    Seat 6: tobad4ya (257634 in chips)
    Seat 9: Diner0 (176477 in chips)
    MOE10019: posts the ante 2000
    djonkoboy: posts the ante 2000
    crosscourtbh: posts the ante 2000
    tobad4ya: posts the ante 2000
    Diner0: posts the ante 2000
    djonkoboy: posts small blind 20000
    crosscourtbh: posts big blind 40000
    *** HOLE CARDS ***</tt></tt>
    <tt><tt>Dealt to tobad4ya [Qh Jh] </tt></tt><tt><tt><tt><tt>tobad4ya: ??? Push or fold?</tt></tt></tt></tt>
    </pre>
  2. aligator_al aligator_al is offline

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    Jul 24th, 2007 (7/24/2007 2:34pm) in reply to tobad4ya

    i'd say fold.
    the only guy who can knock you out is in the bb and will probably call you w/ any ace / any two paint cards / 88+
  3. Micdiddy Micdiddy is offline

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    Jul 24th, 2007 (7/24/2007 2:39pm) in reply to tobad4ya

    I say push. Blinds are huge so taking them down is good, your pushing UTG and as a chip leader so you should get some respect. Lastly QJs plays fine 5 handed, likely to be one of the best hands and can easily make dozens of hands better than it fold (Ax, Kx)
  4. hit_me_up hit_me_up is offline

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    Jul 24th, 2007 (7/24/2007 2:42pm) in reply to tobad4ya

    easy easy shove... every1 less than 10BB... 5 handed... turn the heat up.

    fold if you playing for 3rd or 4th
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    Jul 24th, 2007 (7/24/2007 2:45pm) in reply to hit_me_up

    couldnt have said it better.
  6. lordxixor101 lordxixor101 is offline

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    Jul 24th, 2007 (7/24/2007 3:22pm) in reply to hit_me_up

    Is this an easy shove. Everyone is struggling here, so everyone is going to have to play a hand. I think a wider range of hands is going to call here than you might think, and none of it is good for you.

    I believe this is a push/fold moment, but I think I fold here. Sure, some better hands might fold, but anything calling and you are behind. I think you can get a better spot than this here.
  7. Hecklerz Hecklerz is offline

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    Jul 24th, 2007 (7/24/2007 3:35pm) in reply to tobad4ya

    ^^^Agree with Lord. There's better hands to play. This would just be nothing more than a gamble.
  8. tobad4ya tobad4ya is offline

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    Jul 24th, 2007 (7/24/2007 3:49pm) in reply to lordxixor101

    That was my mindset exactly, i folded it.

    ended up getting 5th so i dunno :(
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  9. mrniphty mrniphty is offline

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    Jul 24th, 2007 (7/24/2007 4:27pm) in reply to tobad4ya

    ezez raise, but I think I make it like 100k to give my hand more credibility, unless youve been in push or fold push. obv youre committed if someone repops you though.
     
  10. RoyalCrusher RoyalCrusher is offline

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    Jul 24th, 2007 (7/24/2007 4:36pm) in reply to tobad4ya

    those blinds are fucking brutal. def shove over fold. but really i would try to get a chop lol.
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    Jul 24th, 2007 (7/24/2007 5:00pm) in reply to tobad4ya

    I'd shove there maybe 65% of the time. It depends on how tight the table has been playing. If I'm playing with guys who know what they are doing it will decrease my range.
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  12. Jennifear Jennifear is offline

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    Jul 24th, 2007 (7/24/2007 5:03pm) in reply to tobad4ya

    Shove a great majority of the time here.
  13. tobad4ya tobad4ya is offline

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    Jul 24th, 2007 (7/24/2007 5:32pm) in reply to RoyalCrusher

    lol funniest mtt i ever played, everybody had an m of 4 the entire time

    no way would we able to get support in the room in time lol
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  14. poker4jab poker4jab is offline

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    Jul 24th, 2007 (7/24/2007 5:36pm) in reply to mrniphty

    if you're admitting to being committed after a 100k raise, why wouldn't you just open shove?
    Go with the stronger move, and try to avoid a showdown.
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    Jul 24th, 2007 (7/24/2007 5:49pm) in reply to tobad4ya

    you have to shove, even if you get called QJhh probably isn't in bad shape

    and though you may think people "have" to call, they won't.
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  16. mrniphty mrniphty is offline

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    Jul 24th, 2007 (7/24/2007 5:50pm) in reply to poker4jab

    I think the stronger move IS raising to 100k here. Unless he has been in push/fold mode, which I stated before.
     
  17. DoubleS00ted DoubleS00ted is offline

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    Jul 25th, 2007 (7/25/2007 3:11am) in reply to tobad4ya

    snap shove.
  18. DoubleS00ted DoubleS00ted is offline

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    Jul 25th, 2007 (7/25/2007 3:11am) in reply to mrniphty

    yea... dont ever do that.
  19. amlove amlove is offline

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    Jul 25th, 2007 (7/25/2007 4:30am) in reply to DoubleS00ted

    3x raise will committ you to the pot and may look more scary than an open shove.
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    Jul 25th, 2007 (7/25/2007 10:21pm) in reply to amlove

    I shove 100% of time, this is not debatable.
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