Hello Pocket 5s.

I would like to discuss the incompetence of the majority of tournament players. So many players that are ranked on this site are viewed as "good" or "talented." I feel it is an injustice that such a high number of people read this site and follow such players, mimmicking them and cheering for them on a daily basis. While I am thrilled that the majority of the online poker community is being mislead into territory that will make them easy to play against in the future, I feel like there is some degree of false advertising going on here. Do people know that Phil Hellmuth is awful with more than ~50 bbs? Do people know that Rizen's cash game videos are poor- and most of the advice is somewhere between questionable and horrific? Do people actually follow the lead of players like Bax- held as gods in many poker circles- and want to be like them? Are people intimidated by players like PearlJammer, consistently going deep in tournaments but with embarrassing understanding of bet sizing game theory?

I realize that the tournament poker community in general does not understand hold'em theory, simply because tournaments, with limited bbs, are so far from anything other than a moderately complicated math problem. I don't think I really want anything to come from this post- more than likely it'll lead me to getting banned from pocket fives. I just want those who are lucky enough to read it to know what they're missing. I mean, no one over here is going to believe me or take anything that I say for more than heresy, but I think the select few that get a chance to see it will at least know that someone said it first when they find it out for themselves.

Does anyone understand variance? Likely not.

I apologize for mentioning the names that I did in advance, but those are the players that I had experience with. Also, if you want credibility, please check my pokerstars db (I think thats why it's called) to see how well I've done in PokerStars tournaments.

Thanks for your time.

Trying to get banned here too? Also, in the interest of full disclosure... you play 3/6 cash correct?

I absolutely love your posts on 2+2

I'm ignorant in this regard, as I have not seen Rizen's videos, but I do know he advocates playing a very tight style against the LSNL-players, which would not work in MSNL or HSNL, but may be the optimal strategy at the lower stakes.

You are up to 5/10 now? I thought you just took shots there?

That's my last week and a half. Do you think I should just stay? http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/5874/jurfu6.png

lmfao aejones, you are such a fool, why not just sum up your whole post with...im a fucking loser mommy, how come none of the interweb kids follow and cherish me. I'm a cash game god and tournament players don't know how to play poker but they have also made way more money than me. WAAAAAAA

Nice run sir.

o rly? whats a good month for these p5s leaderboard people. i don't mean a sick one or one with a 6 fig score, i mean a solid month of profit obv, taking out the entries of the billions of tournaments tehy play all day

I'd say 20-30K profit would be a pretty good month for most top online MTTers

c4ll was able to say what i meant in a much nicer way ;)

ae jones I read MSNL a lot now and you always play the same as me but I still think you're sort of a tool also please don't tap on the glass
ps I make more at MTTs than you do at cash

Yea, I remember playing with you some. I don't remember a lot, just that name and that you were aggro, but I feel like we played some decent pots vs each/ you ran good against me/ I bluffed you a lot or something. There is some reason I remember playing vs you other than you were a standard TAG. MAybe I talked crap to you or something.

What a fantastic first name.

I'll try not to tap on the glass. It's hard to resist because a.) it's so much fun and b.) they usually come closer.

I believe that you have made more than I have at MTTs.

However, I would likely be willing to do a challenge in any given month that I could make more at cash than you could at tournaments. Really, it would be a ridiculous challenge and I wouldn't do it for too high of stakes, but if you didn't have a huge score mid-five-figure+, then I would think I would be in very good shape.

I also thought that 20-30k was a good month by calculations by a good poker friend and myself (he's way better than you guys at tournaments), which is why their acclaim is ridiculous, especially when you have to run hotter than the sun just to final table/ big score a tournament.

I don't want any 'daps' for this post, I get enough pleasure out of knowing how much pain there is in playing donkaments.

Holy shit....I think I just found the cure for insomnia. What is the point of this entire article? Even thou your MTT game is weak in comparison to your cash game, everyone sucks?

Not sure how or why you are comparing MTT to cash anyways, 2 different animals. Typically over a duration of time, you do make more at cash games. But if you want to do a small experiment with one of the top dogs listed on this site, then why don't you let them play a tournament, see how much time they spent and the money they've made and then you can play a cash game for that same amount of time. See who has more money, that'd be fun, no?

I actually agree with most of what you've said except for your naming of actual people. From what I know of, Rizen has actually had a fairly high winrate in cash games and Pearl Jammer did very well last year. I haven't seen rizen's video and I don't agree with every play every "great" mtt player makes. And, btw, Rizen is a 2+2er much more than a p5er. I like both sites but prefer to troll on 2+2 rather than post. Used to like the HSNL but mainly check out MSNL now as I'm not very interested in hu matches and the hand histories of stupid people...

Also, I'll be the first to admit that I'm not the greatest cash player. I can beat 5/10 and lower but have had problems with 10/20 and 25/50 - huge problems.

That being said, lets have a sidebet. Lets bet that I make more in MTTs than you make in 3/6 from April 1st-May 31st. For stars I can get them to report my rebuys and you'd basically have to trust me on FTP and UB as I don't think they keep track.

Regarding 20-30k month being laughable - please check my stats from stars, paradise, party, ftp, and ub from last year and tell me I didn't average well over that for the entire year in MTTs.

BTW - I think you're smug attitude is cute.

Name an amount and I'm down. By 8 central tomorrow please since the results of tomorrow could easily change the EV of the bet.