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Tribal online gaming a possibility??

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  1. DAWGBALLZ DAWGBALLZ is offline

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    Feb 28th, 2007 (2/28/2007 11:02pm)

    Ok, hopefully some of you legal buffs can shed some light on this question. I was reviewing the new online gaming law and noticed that there is also a carve out for anything conducted on tribal land. Now I am almost certain that the intent of this carve out was to protect the Tribal bingo networks that participate in those "linked" million dollar games and such. However, the law doesn't appear to specifically stat that so I was wondering if the following scenario is plausible.
    Most tribes have a diverse business portfolio. For instance, the tribe I presently work for has gaming interests, grocery stores, golf courses, printing companies, and banks. Notice the last thing I stated was banks, so why couldn't a tribe, my tribe for example, open a branch of our bank on the already declared soveriegn land where our casino is located and place a server on the same land and operate an online gaming site? All financial transactions could be processed thru our own bank on tribal land and the actual server would also be on tribal land. Does this still fall within the guidelines of the new law? If so, I wonder how long it will take for tribes to figure this out and put a completely new twists on the future of online gaming.
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  2. AFink93 AFink93 is offline

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    Feb 28th, 2007 (2/28/2007 11:05pm) in reply to DAWGBALLZ

    Foxwoods tried to do some kind of online gaming thing. And got shut down by the state before it got off the ground.
  3. cerealkiller050 cerealkiller050 is offline

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    Mar 1st, 2007 (3/1/2007 1:22am) in reply to AFink93

    GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Gov.!!!!!
  4. SICKTIGHT311 SICKTIGHT311 is offline

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    Mar 1st, 2007 (3/1/2007 1:36am) in reply to DAWGBALLZ

    Unless the internet was built on an Indian reservation, probably not.
  5. Brent Brent is offline

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    Mar 1st, 2007 (3/1/2007 8:44am) in reply to SICKTIGHT311

    I am almost certain that the various slot machines, like Nevada Nickels, Mega Millions, and other progressive jackpots are linked via data cables, etc.

    I wonder if this is a violation of the wire act...OR if this fact could be used for something like you suggest in this thread.

    It's legal to wire money to a casino, and withdraw it at the casino cage, or in the form of markers...why not deposit and use it in another way? It's already being done in certain ways.
  6. stiz49 stiz49 is offline

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    Mar 1st, 2007 (3/1/2007 8:52am) in reply to DAWGBALLZ

    I thought about this when the bill was first signed. There is an exception in the bill for bets placed on Indian land but I do not know exactly what this means. The answer is probably in the original Indian Gaming Act that allows tribes to have casinos on reservation land. I am not sure about tribes that have their own banks. I also was wondering if Canadian tribes could find a way to work around the US bill.
  7. atptim atptim is offline

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    Mar 1st, 2007 (3/1/2007 9:45am) in reply to DAWGBALLZ

    Unfortunatly, the Act makes it a criminal offense for a gambling business to "knowingly" accept a "bet" that travels over state lines. The act specifically states that the bet occurs where the player enters the bet, not where the casino accepts the bet. So, if someone on native american land places the bet and it is accepted on the same reservation, then it may avoid the act. But if someone from out of state places the bet, the act probably reaches covers the situation.

    This is not to say that soverign native american reservations may not have some ligitimate defenses to the act. I am not familier with the statutes that govern native american soverignty, but my guess is that the federal government's authority to regulate gambling of any kind on native american lands is not clear. To the extent that this law affects native american soverignty or infringes on rights traditionally reserved for the soverign reservation, there may be challenges to the law. This is especially true in any kind of a criminal action, where any unclarity or conflict in the law can negate the state's proof that the law was knowingly violated.
  8. Schlik20 Schlik20 is offline

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    Mar 1st, 2007 (3/1/2007 10:06am) in reply to SICKTIGHT311

    lol^^^ golden
  9. Brent Brent is offline

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    Mar 1st, 2007 (3/1/2007 10:18am) in reply to atptim

    so, each Indian nation has an online poker site, for that particular state?

    It's gonna happen. Somehow, online poker is going to be legal and regulated. I just wonder how and where.
  10. RealLeader RealLeader is offline

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    Mar 1st, 2007 (3/1/2007 10:30am) in reply to DAWGBALLZ

    good ole TJ always trying to find a way around the system. ha ha
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    Mar 1st, 2007 (3/1/2007 2:23pm) in reply to RealLeader

    It might be possible to do all financial transactions on Indian land. Thus, if you want to deposit or cashout you could go to a teller there and do that. Then play at home. You would also be able to play there.
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    Mar 1st, 2007 (3/1/2007 2:57pm) in reply to Brent

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