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  1. ibluffheaps ibluffheaps is offline

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    Apr 28th, 2010 (4/28/2010 12:26am)

    Stage #165839575 Tourney ID 5207189 Holdem Multi Normal Tournament No Limit 400 - 2010-04-28 14:17:05 (ET)

    Table: 20 (Real Money) Seat #5 is the dealer

    Seat 1 - THECHEMIST83 (11,380 in chips)

    Seat 2 - DISK0STU (17,079 in chips)

    Seat 3 - INYOUREYE111 (45,649 in chips)

    Seat 4 - HRBLUFNSTUF (9,064 in chips)

    Seat 5 - P0KERXLOSER (4,072 in chips)

    Seat 6 - EDDYTOWN21 (21,857 in chips)

    THECHEMIST83 - Ante 50

    DISK0STU - Ante 50

    INYOUREYE111 - Ante 50

    HRBLUFNSTUF - Ante 50

    P0KERXLOSER - Ante 50

    EDDYTOWN21 - Ante 50

    EDDYTOWN21 - Posts small blind 200

    THECHEMIST83 - Posts big blind 400

    *** POCKET CARDS ***

    Dealt to DISK0STU [7c 7d]

    DISK0STU - Raises 800 to 800

    INYOUREYE111 - Calls 800

    HRBLUFNSTUF - Folds

    P0KERXLOSER - Folds

    EDDYTOWN21 - Folds

    THECHEMIST83 - Folds

    *** FLOP *** [6c Jd 4h]

    DISK0STU - Bets 1,500

    INYOUREYE111 - Calls 1,500

    *** TURN *** [6c Jd 4h] [Jc]

    DISK0STU - Checks

    INYOUREYE111 - Bets 3,275

    My thinking is that I should maybe check/call flop instead, or perhaps just fold to the turn bet.

    wwyd?
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  2. darkhawk-200 darkhawk-200 is offline

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    Apr 28th, 2010 (4/28/2010 1:20am) in reply to ibluffheaps

    check/call turn, check/fold river
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  3. Z1MM3RM4N Z1MM3RM4N is offline

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    Apr 28th, 2010 (4/28/2010 3:03am) in reply to darkhawk-200

    check fold anything to Moorman
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  4. nezbit nezbit is offline

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    Apr 28th, 2010 (4/28/2010 5:52am) in reply to Z1MM3RM4N

    his flop call really tells you nothing. he has position on you. that ur mistake for entering the pot out of position with a mediocre hand.

    most people now-a-days will call flops with nothing or ace high or a pair. so his call really didnt let you figure out anything. I might actually check raise turn. It looks like you must have the jack. If he comes over the top then you can fold. if you check call turn then check river you cant really rep the jack and you really have gained nothing about what he holds

    at least im calling turn bet then on river im check/folding depending on what hits and his action

    when ur UTG with 77 and you min raise ur just asking to be put in these situations. dont do it and you wont have to worry.
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    Apr 28th, 2010 (4/28/2010 6:25am) in reply to ibluffheaps

    against Moorman I cr ship and he snaps 8's. Given that you're playing against him I think that he's going to float really light and barrel almost all turns you've checked to him. So I think folding to the turn bet is not great, but he's good enough that if you check call the turn your river life is going to be a check call or a puke fold cause he'll bluff twice and value bet his entire range ahead of yours with the same frequency.

    I'm a donk so I kind of like bet fold turn, if he turns his hand into a purebluff and raises our turn bet than he's too good to beat . But bet fold chases out 50% of his float hands, any 2 overs, 78s, 2s-ts. but only 50% of these hands he ships the other 50% and gets us to fold...
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  6. ibluffheaps ibluffheaps is offline

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    Apr 28th, 2010 (4/28/2010 6:36am) in reply to nezbit

    I really dont like the idea of the open fold pre here - with the stack sizes. Im pretty sure I can/should play this hand given the relitively deep stacks and blinds/antes worth stealing. Minraising is debatable, but it had been my default open and up until moorman being moved to my table had been taking down the blinds more than occasionally.

    One thing I forgot to mention is that I did believe the villain was a decent regular, but had no idea it was moorman, although Im not sure that changes things much. Im thinking either i should double barrel, or perhaps c/c flop c/c turn and c/f river. Not really a fan of re-raising at any point in this hand and turning it into a bluff, altho getting much value looks tough.

    seriously tho its moorman and i have nfi, any other ideas?
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  7. ricardogcl ricardogcl is offline

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    Apr 28th, 2010 (4/28/2010 8:45am) in reply to nezbit

     
    Originally Posted by nezbit View Post

    his flop call really tells you nothing. he has position on you. that ur mistake for entering the pot out of position with a mediocre hand.

    most people now-a-days will call flops with nothing or ace high or a pair. so his call really didnt let you figure out anything. I might actually check raise turn. It looks like you must have the jack. If he comes over the top then you can fold. if you check call turn then check river you cant really rep the jack and you really have gained nothing about what he holds

    at least im calling turn bet then on river im check/folding depending on what hits and his action

    when ur UTG with 77 and you min raise ur just asking to be put in these situations. dont do it and you wont have to worry.

    are u serious? u want him to open fold 7's with that stack? lol thats a bad advice
     
  8. ricardogcl ricardogcl is offline

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    Apr 28th, 2010 (4/28/2010 8:45am) in reply to nezbit

     
    Originally Posted by nezbit View Post

    his flop call really tells you nothing. he has position on you. that ur mistake for entering the pot out of position with a mediocre hand.

    most people now-a-days will call flops with nothing or ace high or a pair. so his call really didnt let you figure out anything. I might actually check raise turn. It looks like you must have the jack. If he comes over the top then you can fold. if you check call turn then check river you cant really rep the jack and you really have gained nothing about what he holds

    at least im calling turn bet then on river im check/folding depending on what hits and his action

    when ur UTG with 77 and you min raise ur just asking to be put in these situations. dont do it and you wont have to worry.

    are u serious? u want him to open fold 7's with that stack? lol thats a bad advice
     
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