please dont fold, obv you lost or you wouldnt post. think about it this way, how many times have you snapped off these allins and won and never thought to post it. its a $5.50 tourn, he is doing this with J9, J10, JQ, JK, AJ other draws and maybe even worse pairs, you have to call here

easy easy call, esp since its a $5 buyin, and there is flush draw out there some ppl might shove.

Although it was still early in the tourny, I noticed he called loosely. So his range's possibly 77, 88, 87, 89(ss), 109(ss), Axss, J7+...

So let's say 50% i'm (virtually) flippin, 35% i'm ahead and 15% he's got me crushed with two pair, set or straight.

I don't think a fold here would be that bad as i'll still have a good stack to play with.

What if this was a $200 tourny, instafold then prolly.

ok this is just me but you still have a good stack in front of you.... he called your hand preflop with j10 earlier so is range seems pretty big here... you might have the best hand here with a pair but I don't like calling here.... a set here isn't out of the question especially if he put kingbust you on a draw... 77 88 or 910 are are possibilities and you might end up third in this hand if you call... don't get stuck on your kk here I fold in this situation and look for a better spot

At low limits it is almost always a mistake to fold an overpair

Here's the result.

PokerStars Game #35473911737: Tournament #229010282, $5.00+$0.50 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2009/11/17 15:17:50 CET [2009/11/17 9:17:50 ET]

Table '229010282 123' 9-max Seat #8 is the button

Seat 1: THECHISELER1 (2950 in chips)

Seat 2: ELPRO_PY (2425 in chips)

Seat 3: XxRFlushxX (2910 in chips)

Seat 4: steelcitybul (2820 in chips) is sitting out

Seat 5: lady06330 (10010 in chips)

Seat 6: KingBustYou (3025 in chips)

Seat 7: Etagloc (4335 in chips)

Seat 8: lapas13 (2570 in chips)

Seat 9: LILBIT48 (1695 in chips)

LILBIT48: posts small blind 15

THECHISELER1: posts big blind 30

*** HOLE CARDS ***

Dealt to KingBustYou [Kh Kc]

ELPRO_PY: calls 30

XxRFlushxX: folds

steelcitybul: folds

LILBIT48 said, "wow unreal nh"

lady06330: folds

KingBustYou: raises 120 to 150

Etagloc: folds

lapas13: calls 150

LILBIT48: folds

THECHISELER1: folds

ELPRO_PY: calls 120

*** FLOP *** [Js 7s 8d]

ELPRO_PY: checks

KingBustYou: bets 300

lapas13: folds

ELPRO_PY: raises 1975 to 2275 and is all-in

KingBustYou: calls 1975

*** TURN *** [Js 7s 8d] [6h]

*** RIVER *** [Js 7s 8d 6h] [Qs]

*** SHOW DOWN ***

ELPRO_PY: shows [Th 9d] (a straight, Eight to Queen)

KingBustYou: shows [Kh Kc] (a pair of Kings)

ELPRO_PY collected 5045 from pot

*** SUMMARY ***

Total pot 5045 | Rake 0

Board [Js 7s 8d 6h Qs]

Seat 1: THECHISELER1 (big blind) folded before Flop

Seat 2: ELPRO_PY showed [Th 9d] and won (5045) with a straight, Eight to Queen

Seat 3: XxRFlushxX folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Seat 4: steelcitybul folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Seat 5: lady06330 folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Seat 6: KingBustYou showed [Kh Kc] and lost with a pair of Kings

Seat 7: Etagloc folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Seat 8: lapas13 (button) folded on the Flop

Seat 9: LILBIT48 (small blind) folded before Flop

Crying call it was. Can anybody calculate the EV here considering my read and villain's presumed range?

Most of you say he could do this with J10+ or other hands that I beat, so he could also have called me OOP with a wider range that has me crushed.

$5 or $200 tourny, you still have to play well and and make tough laydowns if you want to progress and try to win, especially this early in MTT with still a nice stack to play with.

I believe you waste too many good opportunities in tournies by making too many crying calls and just register into new ones. It's not the $5 that bother me, it's what could've been if I'd play well. You can fold for 2 hours and be down to 10bb and still make it deep if you start running well.

P.S.: I guess if I'd raised 4x I would've won the hand then.

I think you are being results oriented here...with all the draws out there mixed with the read of the opponent, this is a snap call imo

snap call....the players in those tourneys are level 0.1 thinkers. lol

 

Originally Posted by jhammond10

I call here and never feel bad about it

+1 all day long!!

ok tx, i get it now. KingKong bulldozer 'em! :) tx for the replies