There are 39 players left and they pay 36 and I believe I am 8/39, but not positive. I've only been at this table for 10-15 hands or so but i believe the villain has been active however I don't remember him 3-betting to this point.

Full Tilt Poker Game #9052663825: Turbo Fiddy (69140638), Table 28 - 800/1600 Ante 200 - No Limit Hold'em - 2:33:24 ET - 2008/11/19
Seat 1: DimJarnaby35 (41,800)
Seat 2: Who Dat Lobell (27,776)
Seat 4: become_a_dragon (15,456)
Seat 5: pokerbubble (14,073)
Seat 6: ActionDaniel (15,501)
Seat 7: keylow63 (31,387)
Seat 8: gertiewith (20,450)
Seat 9: Bhanks11 (15,836)
DimJarnaby35 antes 200
Who Dat Lobell antes 200
become_a_dragon antes 200
pokerbubble antes 200
ActionDaniel antes 200
keylow63 antes 200
gertiewith antes 200
Bhanks11 antes 200
Who Dat Lobell posts the small blind of 800
become_a_dragon posts the big blind of 1,600
The button is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to keylow63 [Th Ts]
pokerbubble has 15 seconds left to act
pokerbubble folds
ActionDaniel has 15 seconds left to act
ActionDaniel is sitting out
ActionDaniel has timed out
ActionDaniel folds
ActionDaniel has returned
keylow63 raises to 3,800
gertiewith folds
Bhanks11 folds
DimJarnaby35 raises to 41,600, and is all in
Who Dat Lobell folds
become_a_dragon folds
keylow63 ?????

Again, no reads on villain and I don't know if he was paying attention or not but this was the first hand I played so this might tighten his range. Anyway, what's your play?????????????

Call all day.

DimJarnaby35 is a super lag tard from my previous experience with him. But its still pretty hard to find the call button here....but at the same time he knows this. I really don't know what i would do here...prob fold and wait for better spot to open shove. haha depends on what mood im in, if you win this flip you pretty much lock up final table spot.

So you called then!

Fold for me so close to money when there are only 3 players left to drop and there is only a small chance i reckon that you are not flipping or worse (ie if he has 77-99 or is just squeezing you with xx)

Still plenty of chips left after a fold

he's exploiting the bubble and your desire to cash, either call and teach him a lesson or open shove next time, i don't really like folding after you've put money in the pot and there's a good chance you're flipping or ahead

So after some thought I decided that villain put me on a wide range and thought I was exploiting bubble and would pretty much ship ATC on me. Here's what happened:
Full Tilt Poker Game #9052663825: Turbo Fiddy (69140638), Table 28 - 800/1600 Ante 200 - No Limit Hold'em - 2:33:24 ET - 2008/11/19
Seat 1: DimJarnaby35 (41,800)
Seat 2: Who Dat Lobell (27,776)
Seat 4: become_a_dragon (15,456)
Seat 5: pokerbubble (14,073)
Seat 6: ActionDaniel (15,501)
Seat 7: keylow63 (31,387)
Seat 8: gertiewith (20,450)
Seat 9: Bhanks11 (15,836)
DimJarnaby35 antes 200
Who Dat Lobell antes 200
become_a_dragon antes 200
pokerbubble antes 200
ActionDaniel antes 200
keylow63 antes 200
gertiewith antes 200
Bhanks11 antes 200
Who Dat Lobell posts the small blind of 800
become_a_dragon posts the big blind of 1,600
The button is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to keylow63 [Th Ts]
pokerbubble has 15 seconds left to act
pokerbubble folds
ActionDaniel has 15 seconds left to act
ActionDaniel is sitting out
ActionDaniel has timed out
ActionDaniel folds
ActionDaniel has returned
keylow63 raises to 3,800
gertiewith folds
Bhanks11 folds
DimJarnaby35 raises to 41,600, and is all in
Who Dat Lobell folds
become_a_dragon folds
keylow63 has 15 seconds left to act
keylow63 calls 27,387, and is all in
DimJarnaby35 shows [Ad 4h]
keylow63 shows [Th Ts]
Uncalled bet of 10,413 returned to DimJarnaby35
*** FLOP *** [Ah 3s 6s]
pokerbubble: wow
*** TURN *** [Ah 3s 6s] [9d]
*** RIVER *** [Ah 3s 6s 9d] [2d]
DimJarnaby35 shows a pair of Aces
keylow63 shows a pair of Tens
DimJarnaby35 wins the pot (66,374) with a pair of Aces
pokerbubble: sick
keylow63 stands up
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 66,374 | Rake 0
Board: [Ah 3s 6s 9d 2d]
Seat 1: DimJarnaby35 (button) showed [Ad 4h] and won (66,374) with a pair of Aces
Seat 2: Who Dat Lobell (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 4: become_a_dragon (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 5: pokerbubble folded before the Flop
Seat 6: ActionDaniel folded before the Flop
Seat 7: keylow63 showed [Th Ts] and lost with a pair of Tens
Seat 8: gertiewith folded before the Flop
Seat 9: Bhanks11 folded before the Flop

Yea, unlucky but I think I had the correct reasoning. What do you guys think?

i'd open shove but if i raise i'd call any push.

 

Originally Posted by andressoprano

In this turbo MTT's, once antes kick, I quit raising with less than 20BB's. Open shove .

Here you are either racing against 2 overs, or facing an overpair.

As played, this is a fold IMO. You still have 17BB's, and with that stack I rather been the pusher than the caller, specially with TT.

DO NOT LISTEN TO THIS. Not because you posted results. It is just a retarded comment. I do mantain that this is a ship preflop, to avoid situations like this.

ok, so it seems that the general idea here is that I should ship preflop. I don't much like jamming 20 bb's pre but I still have much to learn, especially in turbo's.

Is there anyone that agrees with the way I played it?

DimJarnaby35 is far from LAG....lol dont listen to these clowns amazing player but nitty!!!!

 

Originally Posted by andressoprano

 

Originally Posted by andressoprano

In this turbo MTT's, once antes kick, I quit raising with less than 20BB's. Open shove .

Here you are either racing against 2 overs, or facing an overpair.

As played, this is a fold IMO. You still have 17BB's, and with that stack I rather been the pusher than the caller, specially with TT.

DO NOT LISTEN TO THIS. Not because you posted results. It is just a retarded comment. I do mantain that this is a ship preflop, to avoid situations like this.

Don't you think you gain more equity in the long run the times you get all in with TT vs A4, compared to the FE you gain from open shoving 20bbs?

Isn't this a decent trap with TT if donks behind are known to be able to shove super wide and you intend to snap call.

 

Originally Posted by andressoprano

 

Originally Posted by TheMayor

 

Originally Posted by andressoprano

 

Originally Posted by andressoprano

In this turbo MTT's, once antes kick, I quit raising with less than 20BB's. Open shove .

Here you are either racing against 2 overs, or facing an overpair.

As played, this is a fold IMO. You still have 17BB's, and with that stack I rather been the pusher than the caller, specially with TT.

DO NOT LISTEN TO THIS. Not because you posted results. It is just a retarded comment. I do mantain that this is a ship preflop, to avoid situations like this.

Don't you think you gain more equity in the long run the times you get all in with TT vs A4, compared to the FE you gain from open shoving 20bbs?

Isn't this a decent trap with TT if donks behind are known to be able to shove super wide and you intend to snap call.

The problem here is that TT is not a trapping hand. You can't trap with a hand that plays horrible postflop like 75% of the time.

Just take it down with no showdown. Blinds and antes are big enough.

I def was not playing this as a trap, just raising a strong hand

 

Originally Posted by witcher1984

if dimjarnaby is going to donktard with a4 here, why the hell would we open ship 20 bbs here from utg+2? let other people play less optimally against our opening range here, rather than shoving and maybe even getting 88,99 to fold, etc. std raise call almost any ship, every ship, wp, ul, etc.

beat me to it. why jam when you can raise/call against a wider range?