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Turbo SNGs: Huge Huge Huge Downswing!

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  1. UCLArounder UCLArounder is offline

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    Sep 4th, 2007 (9/4/2007 6:44pm)

    9-Tabling the $12's on Full Tilt.

    Down 42 buyins in my last 113 SNGs <------ puke

    Obviously a small sample size, but obviously a massive downswing. This is by far the sickest run of cards that I have ever gone through.

    Can a 42 buyin downswing come from bad luck alone? Can somone forget how to play a SNG after being a winning player for 1000's of them? I just don't get it. I have gone through hand histories and am not finding any consistent mistakes, so I just don't know what to do anymore, other than keep grinding and hope for some good luck.
  2. doubledave22 doubledave22 is offline

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    Sep 4th, 2007 (9/4/2007 6:47pm) in reply to UCLArounder

    play less tables till u get ur mojo back.
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  3. DMBAND41 DMBAND41 is offline

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    Sep 4th, 2007 (9/4/2007 6:53pm) in reply to UCLArounder

    This exact thing happened to me a few months ago. I lost a good portion of my bankroll and it absolutely killed my confidence. Since then, I have played 20$ HU and a mtt here and there and have done well. I think it is just running bad. If you are a winning player, there should be no worries. Good Luck.
     
  4. Ariganello Ariganello is offline

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    Sep 4th, 2007 (9/4/2007 7:11pm) in reply to UCLArounder

    im currently facing the same situation and im pissed I went over my HH and im making the right plays just getting smoked im on a 22 buy downswing but still sucks.
  5. ill flu ill flu is online now

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    Sep 4th, 2007 (9/4/2007 7:14pm) in reply to UCLArounder

    id say yes it can come from bad luck alone but to me that is like the borderline of how bad I expect to run, if it keep going down another 10+ buy ins then time to re evaluate your game.

    Sorry to hear =/
  6. em_ERIC_ em_ERIC_ is offline

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    Sep 4th, 2007 (9/4/2007 7:21pm) in reply to UCLArounder

    obvsly time to move up stakes to make up for bad run
    gl
  7. UCLArounder UCLArounder is offline

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    Sep 4th, 2007 (9/4/2007 7:24pm) in reply to ill flu

    That is what I am afraid of. The 42 buyins just seemed a little much.
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  8. mclaughlin04 mclaughlin04 is offline

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    Sep 4th, 2007 (9/4/2007 7:30pm) in reply to UCLArounder

    60 is possible if you play long enough...rare, but possible
  9. jalman1 jalman1 is offline

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    Sep 4th, 2007 (9/4/2007 7:33pm) in reply to mclaughlin04

    42 buyins a the 10 $ level is yucky......best of luck in turning it around
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  10. Czar Kasm Czar Kasm is offline

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    Sep 4th, 2007 (9/4/2007 8:45pm) in reply to jalman1

    So standard...We've all been there and unfortunately start to think we're doing things wrong- almost no other solution than to keep making correct decisions and playing without emotion...GL it will end eventually.
  11. roachclips roachclips is offline

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    Sep 4th, 2007 (9/4/2007 9:18pm) in reply to UCLArounder

    I'm down $1519 so far in the new stars $12/180s!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111

    Since misery loves company, thought you'd enjoy that.
  12. rodbama rodbama is offline

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    Sep 4th, 2007 (9/4/2007 10:13pm) in reply to UCLArounder

    when i have a big downswing i switch to another poker site. for whatever reason it always helps.
  13. Ariganello Ariganello is offline

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    Sep 4th, 2007 (9/4/2007 10:43pm) in reply to rodbama

    I use to do that when neteller around man it was easy to move funds
  14. THE KING65 THE KING65 is offline

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    Sep 4th, 2007 (9/4/2007 10:45pm) in reply to rodbama

    I play mostly $12 turbos on tilt as well, I've played with you before, your not bad. I would play less tables. 4 or 5 is good enough to make decent cash on. The downswings are huge as is the upswings too.
  15. sgang sgang is offline

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    Sep 5th, 2007 (9/5/2007 3:24am) in reply to roachclips

    what are you thinking?
    youve lost over 100 games of the $12 turbo 180 mans?
    after the first 50 bucks i realised this game is just not profitable..
    give up.. go back to regular 180 man sngo.

    Has anyone OR does anyone know of anyone who has won one of these things twice?
  16. stevie444 stevie444 is offline

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    Sep 5th, 2007 (9/5/2007 3:35am) in reply to UCLArounder

    I know a sng player whose game I regard very highly indeed and he is on a larger downswing. These big downswings are very rare for winning players but they will happen - keep at it.
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  17. Edals Edals is offline

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    Sep 5th, 2007 (9/5/2007 3:44am) in reply to UCLArounder

    Everytime I read posts from you SNG grinders about how you are running, it makes me so glad I don't play these all the time. I remember I wanted to blow my own brains out after about 700 6.50 turbos over the course of a month.
  18. Slickster998 Slickster998 is offline

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    Sep 5th, 2007 (9/5/2007 3:53am) in reply to Edals

    I went on a 50 buyin downswing after having a 15 percent roi for like 7k sngs. I am no down to 5%, but now I only play cash games. I have made a steady profit since. Maybe try that?
  19. jhub3000 jhub3000 is offline

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    Sep 5th, 2007 (9/5/2007 4:05am) in reply to UCLArounder

    I had an 80 buy-in downswing at the higher stakes games with about a 7-10% ROI so yeah 42 buy-ins can happen. Whether dropping 42 in only 113 SNGs is ridiculously abnormal kind of depends on your ROI. I would just chalk it up to variance though if you're a proven player. Review your play & see if you can find any leaks. Generally downswings are good in the long run because it motivates you to find leaks. It's hard to get too motivated to work on your game when you're crushing.
  20. jhub3000 jhub3000 is offline

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    Sep 5th, 2007 (9/5/2007 4:07am) in reply to jhub3000

    I missed the part that you already reviewed some HHs. Maybe have another player you think is good review them.
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