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  1. Jung money Jung money is offline

    Grand Rapids, MI
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    Jan 2nd, 2011 (1/2/2011 7:02pm)

    What do you guys think about a fold? Too nitty? If I'm not folding, I'm shoving obv. Player is a 13/13 after 33 hands, my thinking was AJ wasnt in his preflop opening range, although I could be wrong. The turn brings the flush draw, so I guess he could be bluffing, but I felt like that is rare. I hate life either way..

    Grabbed by Holdem Manager
    NL Holdem $60(BB) Full Tilt
    SB ($7,023)
    BB ($1,835)
    UTG ($12,572)
    UTG+1 ($2,610)
    Hero ($3,060)
    BTN ($2,023)

    Dealt to Hero A:spade: Q:club:

    UTG raises to $180, fold, Hero calls $180, fold, fold, fold

    FLOP ($450) 8:club: A:heart: 6:diamond:

    UTG bets $295, Hero calls $295

    TURN ($1,040) 8:club: A:heart: 6:diamond: 5:diamond:

    UTG bets $720
    Edited By: Jung money Jan 3rd, 2011 at 01:00 AM
     
  2. Jung money Jung money is offline

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    Jan 2nd, 2011 (1/2/2011 10:01pm) in reply to Jung money

    bump
     
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  3. s.l. halper s.l. halper is offline

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    Jan 3rd, 2011 (1/3/2011 12:42am) in reply to Jung money

    What was the turn betsize? I think it is a good indicator as to his hand strength and it isn't in your hh (also a reason that nobody responded the first time).

    Oh and why shove this turn? Once you decide to keep playing you are basically bluffcatching or beating weaker aces. Just keep clicking call until he runs out of cards to bluff at.
     
  4. Jung money Jung money is offline

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    Jan 3rd, 2011 (1/3/2011 1:02am) in reply to s.l. halper

    my fault, didnt realize part of the hand was missing

     
    Originally Posted by s.l. halper View Post

    What was the turn betsize? I think it is a good indicator as to his hand strength and it isn't in your hh (also a reason that nobody responded the first time).

    Oh and why shove this turn? Once you decide to keep playing you are basically bluffcatching or beating weaker aces. Just keep clicking call until he runs out of cards to bluff at.

    I believe this was a fold spot, but fwiw...if we decide to call the turn are we calling any river? That plan doesnt seem that much better if at all then just jamming turn if we decide to continue
     
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  5. rainmanrcp rainmanrcp is offline

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    Jan 3rd, 2011 (1/3/2011 1:58am) in reply to Jung money

     
    Originally Posted by Jung money View Post




    I believe this was a fold spot, but fwiw...if we decide to call the turn are we calling any river? That plan doesnt seem that much better if at all then just jamming turn if we decide to continue

    He generally can't call your turn shove with a bluff unless he rly hates u
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    Jan 5th, 2011 (1/5/2011 6:26am) in reply to rainmanrcp

     
    Originally Posted by rainmanrcp View Post

    He generally can't call your turn shove with a bluff unless he rly hates u

    lol what?
     
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  7. yoonaSNSDjess yoonaSNSDjess is offline

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    Jan 5th, 2011 (1/5/2011 10:23am) in reply to Jung money

    if this is for real money then i suck too much to give any input, fwiw, if you call the turn spot, do you fold to anything on the river?

    Cliff: just saw 22.5k, only hand i really see beating you is AK or possibly 88
    Edited By: yoonaSNSDjess Jan 5th, 2011 at 10:25 AM
  8. TrueMetalMan TrueMetalMan is offline

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    Jan 5th, 2011 (1/5/2011 10:42am) in reply to yoonaSNSDjess

    I don't see why you didn't 3b preflop. Or on any spot... and if your bluff catching then shoving is -ev since he won't call you and you want his chips. So just calling would be more +ev.

    But I 3b flop to see where I am at for sure.. Kinda looks like a big pair... doubt aces Ive seen this play out and dood wakes up with kk so many times.

    Your in position and playin passive as hell. So as played yea just call down and hopefully he doesn't suck out on the riv.
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