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RollTideRoll! all im saying....naw seriously, props to you..respect.
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How much would you say is enough? In terms of BR, when I started playing as my sole income (while being a full time student) I had a $10k roll which was enough to continue grinding and living for about a year and 1/2 having never gone broke. Then I came close to going break before making a ton (was taking some profitable shots that finally panned out well). Try for like $20/hr+ in the beginning to go pro (which will obv increase as you continue grinding and get better/move up).
As for me, I wouldn't still be playing this game if I wasn't making $100/hr+. This game is brutal, and it is one of the most stressful things I have ever done in my life, and likely will be one of the most my whole life. You will love being a pro for like the first month, and then you will hate this game until you have made enough money to not have to worry about playing much and just playing when you feel up to it.
When I used to grind 12/180 turbos all day every day it was like the worst. I did it because I didn't want to get a job. I hated myself and poker. Once I worked the roll to over 100k the poker lifestyle became very enjoyable again. Good luck with whatever you choose!
(and sigh tried not to brag here but was only good way I could think to explain things!) -
You're an engineer?
Don't do it.
I'm a lawyer...not even close to the top of the heap, but I make 130K + mega benefits...and have time to play poker. After winning the Commerce HORSE event, and doing real well in 20-40 limit cash games, I have gone on the worst run of my avocation...
The gift is I've been able to play lower and now virtually not at all for a month...and I still make 130K + benefits and have most of my roll... -
I currently work full time (I headhunt in private banking/wealth management) and play similar stakes as you. I also played as my sole income for a few years.
I prefer the work/poker combo honestly. My life feels soo much more well rounded, I make plenty of money, and I can stop playing whenever I downswing/hate poker/need a break. It may be a personal preference, but it keeps poker "fresh" and enjoyable for me instead of being a grind -
This exactly. words of wisdom
Originally Posted by Frank1The1Tank
How much would you say is enough? In terms of BR, when I started playing as my sole income (while being a full time student) I had a $10k roll which was enough to continue grinding and living for about a year and 1/2 having never gone broke. Then I came close to going break before making a ton (was taking some profitable shots that finally panned out well). Try for like $20/hr+ in the beginning to go pro (which will obv increase as you continue grinding and get better/move up).
As for me, I wouldn't still be playing this game if I wasn't making $100/hr+. This game is brutal, and it is one of the most stressful things I have ever done in my life, and likely will be one of the most my whole life. You will love being a pro for like the first month, and then you will hate this game until you have made enough money to not have to worry about playing much and just playing when you feel up to it.
When I used to grind 12/180 turbos all day every day it was like the worst. I did it because I didn't want to get a job. I hated myself and poker. Once I worked the roll to over 100k the poker lifestyle became very enjoyable again. Good luck with whatever you choose!
(and sigh tried not to brag here but was only good way I could think to explain things!) -
I agree there's many factors to consider and will vary based on your personal situation. You should also keep in mind that in addition to say a 10k BR you should also have EXTRA money stashed away in cash you start off on a downswing...you still need to pay the bills. This varies based on what your expenses are each month, so if I were you I'd figure out the total per month and try to have 3-4 months worth of expenses saved away. If things don't work out then you can move back into engineering, although our current economy is looking at about an 11% nationwide unemployment rate so keep in mind if you have to switch back to engineering.
One more thing - online poker is in a volatile phase at the moment. If you can wait out the year and see what kind of changes, if any, are coming, I would recommend foregoing the switch for the time being.
-Parli -
20 Things to consider before you go pro
20 Things to Consider before you turn pro, part two
^^I hope you find this helpful.
My opinion is that if you can make "just as much or potentially more playing", like you said in your OP, then don't do it. If you could make 1.5-2x as much, then give it some serious consideration if you really enjoy it.
Good luck to you no matter what you do!
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He speaks the truth. You'll despise poker until you get to the bankroll and level of playing where you don't have to grind 5-6 days a week/ 10 hours a day. And then you'll just hate it. But at least you get to enjoy the lifestyle.
Originally Posted by trublupoker
This exactly. words of wisdomOriginally Posted by Frank1The1Tank
How much would you say is enough? In terms of BR, when I started playing as my sole income (while being a full time student) I had a $10k roll which was enough to continue grinding and living for about a year and 1/2 having never gone broke. Then I came close to going break before making a ton (was taking some profitable shots that finally panned out well). Try for like $20/hr+ in the beginning to go pro (which will obv increase as you continue grinding and get better/move up).
As for me, I wouldn't still be playing this game if I wasn't making $100/hr+. This game is brutal, and it is one of the most stressful things I have ever done in my life, and likely will be one of the most my whole life. You will love being a pro for like the first month, and then you will hate this game until you have made enough money to not have to worry about playing much and just playing when you feel up to it.
When I used to grind 12/180 turbos all day every day it was like the worst. I did it because I didn't want to get a job. I hated myself and poker. Once I worked the roll to over 100k the poker lifestyle became very enjoyable again. Good luck with whatever you choose!
(and sigh tried not to brag here but was only good way I could think to explain things!)
You'll hate it when your grinding for $10/hr
You'll hate it more when you "work" for a month and make $0.
Keep your job until your spitting 100/hr in your spare time. I'm actually trying to do the exact opposite...student/poker-->engineer -
specially if you only play mtts, as sngs/cash as so much more consistent.
There's a good chance you'll hate playing poker as a job more than your current job. But the advantage is obviously the $, but that doesn't come until later. -
Ive played poker professionally for the last year and i have absolutely loved it. There is nothing like the freedom of getting to do whatever i want to do everyday, getting to take weeks off from work at a time if i choose, and waking up everyday thrilled to work. I also love the fact that there is both live and online poker. Poker is pretty much perfect for the life style i want to live. + its better $ than anything i would want to go to school for and will only get better as i become a better card player. I also like poker because it allows you to build up a large amount of liquid cash that u can use for buisness intrests later. But i can honestly not even begin to imagine playing poker as a soul source of income being married...can't see it working well.. I would just play on the side. gl with whatever you choose to do.
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how many people in this thread giving advice are actually pros themselves? or have been at some stage?
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Yeah I was thinking this as well, you must not enjoy poker too much if you wouldn't do it for less than that. 50$/hr is still 100k a year to sit around playing cards. I mean 100+/hr is pretty attainable, but if I knew I could only make 100-150k a yr playing poker, I'd sure as hell still take it over any job.
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I admittedly enjoy it considerably less than I did when I first started out. But ultimately I can be happy doing a number of things, so it just comes down to how much I can make doing it. For me it's like this:
Originally Posted by DFish
Yeah I was thinking this as well, you must not enjoy poker too much if you wouldn't do it for less than that. 50$/hr is still 100k a year to sit around playing cards. I mean 100+/hr is pretty attainable, but if I knew I could only make 100-150k a yr playing poker, I'd sure as hell still take it over any job.
Jobs A, B, and C all make me equally happy/satisfied.
A pays $30/hr
B pays $75/hr
C pays $100/hr
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Not a pro nor have I ever been, but the thought of losing the security that comes with a full time job does not sound very intriguing.
GL with whatever path you choose. -
what can you do now to make 75/hr ? male gogo dancer ?
Originally Posted by Frank1The1Tank
I admittedly enjoy it considerably less than I did when I first started out. But ultimately I can be happy doing a number of things, so it just comes down to how much I can make doing it. For me it's like this:
Jobs A, B, and C all make me equally happy/satisfied.
A pays $30/hr
B pays $75/hr
C pays $100/hr
Clearly I would choose job C. If C somehow started paying $50/hr why would I want to keep doing it? -
u went through engineering school, got your degree, and now u wanna quit? umm wat?
engineers make good money FYI -
This is some pretty good advice imo...if anything, I'd say go part time (3 days a week at normal job) or something if they'd let you try it out...employers get to be really picky right now with who they want to hire and not hire, so dont blow it right now....
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Dude, Just keep taking down 40k scores in the Sunday Million, and set it up at work so you can take every Monday off. That way you can run deep, then crash and sleep in, relax, have the new wife bring you breakfast in bed, etc.
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Frank1The1Tank hit it spot on.
I am a teacher and am a "pro" during the summer when I have two months off. I make about $40-$50/hour on average playing sngs and I hate it and cannot wait to go back to teaching.
You'll have a few sessions when you win $500-$800 in a few hours and then a couple sessions where you lose $100-$300 and it get's really frustrating and really mundane.
As Frank said, I loved it the first month, but now I cannot wait to go back teaching and playing on the weekends.








