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  1. busto_soon busto_soon is offline

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    Feb 4th, 2008 (2/4/2008 11:50pm)

    UB 109fo

    Hand #50493245-46 at Mon9K11pm-006 (No Limit tournament Hold'em)
    Started at 04/Feb/08 23:45:27

    majdasad is at seat 0 with 2205.
    Scillara is at seat 1 with 3540.
    Borkus17 is at seat 2 with 2755.
    King Moolie is at seat 3 with 4865.
    sashager is at seat 4 with 4530.
    busto_soon is at seat 5 with 2765.
    perlita19 is at seat 6 with 4425.
    MikeMcD3 is at seat 7 with 1325.
    blazinazn69 is at seat 8 with 2755.
    mnsprout is at seat 9 with 8335.
    The button is at seat 8.

    mnsprout posts the small blind of 15.
    majdasad posts the big blind of 30.

    majdasad: -- --
    Scillara: -- --
    Borkus17: -- --
    King Moolie: -- --
    sashager: -- --
    busto_soon: Kd Qd
    perlita19: -- --
    MikeMcD3: -- --
    blazinazn69: -- --
    mnsprout: -- --

    Pre-flop:

    Scillara folds. Borkus17 folds. King Moolie calls.
    sashager calls. busto_soon raises to 165.
    perlita19 folds. MikeMcD3 folds. blazinazn69 folds.
    mnsprout folds. majdasad folds. King Moolie
    folds. sashager calls.

    Flop (board: Jd 2d Qc):

    sashager checks. busto_soon bets 280. sashager
    calls.

    Turn (board: Jd 2d Qc Qs):

    sashager checks. busto_soon checks.

    River (board: Jd 2d Qc Qs Tc):

    sashager checks. busto_soon bets 650. sashager
    raises to 2915. busto_soon ??

    Another donk fest, AP 109fo

    Stage #1079572802 Tourney ID 1955448 Holdem Multi Normal Tournament No Limit $40 - 2008-02-04 23:57:35 (ET)
    Table: 12 (Real Money) Seat #6 is the dealer
    Seat 1 - ZALOU ($2530 in chips)
    Seat 2 - SILKYSMOOTH8 ($2310 in chips)
    Seat 3 - SKROGER ($2682.50 in chips)
    Seat 4 - SPIN31 ($2995 in chips)
    Seat 5 - JOHNNY2912 ($2255 in chips)
    Seat 6 - DJSEZEL2K7 ($2075 in chips)
    Seat 7 - LOHOLEWILY ($2900 in chips)
    Seat 8 - NORCALSURF83 ($2335 in chips)
    Seat 9 - EDRICO ($2137.50 in chips)
    LOHOLEWILY - Posts small blind $20
    NORCALSURF83 - Posts big blind $40
    *** POCKET CARDS ***
    Dealt to JOHNNY2912 [Jh Js]
    EDRICO - Folds
    ZALOU - Folds
    SILKYSMOOTH8 - Calls $40
    SKROGER - Folds
    SPIN31 - Raises $160 to $160
    JOHNNY2912 - Calls $160
    DJSEZEL2K7 - Raises $375 to $375
    LOHOLEWILY - Folds
    NORCALSURF83 - Folds
    SILKYSMOOTH8 - Folds
    SPIN31 - Calls $215
    JOHNNY2912 - Calls $215
    *** FLOP *** [3d 3s Qc]
    SPIN31 - Checks
    JOHNNY2912 - Checks
    DJSEZEL2K7 - Checks
    *** TURN *** [3d 3s Qc] [10s]
    SPIN31 - Checks
    JOHNNY2912 - Checks
    DJSEZEL2K7 - Checks
    *** RIVER *** [3d 3s Qc 10s] [10c]
    SPIN31 - Checks
    JOHNNY2912 - Checks
    DJSEZEL2K7 - All-In $1700
    SPIN31 - Folds
    JOHNNY2912 - ??
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  2. thefuture021 thefuture021 is offline

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    Feb 4th, 2008 (2/4/2008 11:55pm) in reply to busto_soon

    First hand ???? - real tough spot. As played no reads I probably call and lose, but it's definitely a tough spot.

    Second fold.
  3. charder charder is offline

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    Feb 4th, 2008 (2/4/2008 11:57pm) in reply to busto_soon

    why are u checking turn in 1.
    2 is a fold for sure.
    if you think villain is thinking in hand 1, then you should prolly call, b/c you "shouldn't" have a Queen with your line.
     
  4. USCphildo USCphildo is offline

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    Feb 5th, 2008 (2/5/2008 12:06am) in reply to charder

    ^ what he said.

    <3 chardersauce.
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  5. ChipRick ChipRick is offline

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    Feb 5th, 2008 (2/5/2008 12:21am) in reply to busto_soon

    are you check raising turn on hand 1? i like a bet there

    hand 2 is an easy fold...though i really dislike the line you chose....were you not essentially set mining with JJ?
  6. The Universe The Universe is offline

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    Feb 5th, 2008 (2/5/2008 1:42am) in reply to charder

    i think this is the major problem with under repping hands is sometimes you get into a spot like this one where you really dont beat any hands who are raising the river for value....so either bet knowing you could induce a bluff and snappp call or play the hand a little more straightforwardly I think he has twos full though. And hand two is probably a fold but I think youre good
     
  7. mgerman23 mgerman23 is offline

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    Feb 5th, 2008 (2/5/2008 1:53am) in reply to ChipRick

    Call all day in 1. I it's pretty tough to put him on a hand that beats you. maaaaaaaybe a set turned boat but I dont think i can fold here.

    Pretty sure I fold #2. Multiway pot almsot sure some is slowplaying.
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    Feb 5th, 2008 (2/5/2008 2:56am) in reply to busto_soon

    i call 1st

    fold 2nd

    btw is it wrong in hand 2 to bet out any time during the hand or be content with the checkdown...(just wondering for myself)
  9. Wretchy Wretchy is offline whatslogic

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    Feb 5th, 2008 (2/5/2008 3:08am) in reply to Cortz

    fold first, to the only had I see you beating there is AJ. QT, QJ, AK 89ss could all be in his range there and I really think you're beat.

    hand #2. hate your line, but i fold
     
  10. BeL0WaB0Ve BeL0WaB0Ve is offline

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    Feb 5th, 2008 (2/5/2008 4:09am) in reply to Wretchy

    Whats a fold? Call both...

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  11. busto_soon busto_soon is offline

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    Feb 5th, 2008 (2/5/2008 4:27am) in reply to busto_soon

    1) I really felt like I was beat and although I hate making huge laydowns in donkaments, I folded. I know there aren't a lot of hands beating me (JJ/22/QJ/TT/98dd).. But there aren't alot of logical bluffs either (missed diamonds, AT/T9?). A river c/r from a passive player (limpcall pre..), I don't know.

    Results: he said I folded the best hand, but "it was a semibluff because he had a pair" :D

    (2) Usually I lol and fold, thinking he probably had QQ or the worst played aces ever but it didn't feel right now (gay little reraise pre then check the flop), also it's Absolute, ppl are random button clicking idiots so I called.

    Results: 33, nh sir

    Spin is not a total idiot if I can remember correctly so the rest of the hand is kinda standard imo.
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    Feb 5th, 2008 (2/5/2008 4:35am) in reply to charder

    "why are u checking turn in 1."

    I can't get 2 streets of value of a Jack, there aren't alot of worse Queens and I'm not that worried about the nfd and T9/KT.
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  13. Mr_BigQueso Mr_BigQueso is offline

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    Feb 5th, 2008 (2/5/2008 4:50am) in reply to busto_soon

    dipthrong: " folding is for quitters"
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  14. apestyles apestyles is offline Moderator

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    Feb 5th, 2008 (2/5/2008 4:59am) in reply to busto_soon

    "I can't get 2 streets of value of a Jack"

    on ub? yea u can...

    bet turn call river... I have a hard time putting him on a hand that beats u

    2nd hand I think I fold unless I'm feeling particularly heroic. His overbet does seem kind of weak and out of place so I wouldnt blame you for calling.
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