Here are 2 hands that I think I may have played too passively/tightly :

#1

800/1600 - 200

Kevin "BeL0WaB0Ve" Saul(150k) opens the HJ to 4500, I(190k) am in the SB with TT and make it 15.5k, then Adam "csimmsux" Geyer(~230k) in the BB makes it ~42k(I don't recall the exact bet size). Kevin folds pretty quickly and I tank for a bit and fold.

Thoughts -

1)I don't think Kevin is getting too out of line opening our blinds(yes still opening a lot just not "BeL0WaB0Ve" a lot)
2) Kevin is probably flatting me a ton so my range isn't super wide here since I'm not a big fan of playing an out of position 3 bet pot with 100bb stacks, though I'm not sure what Adam thinks about my range here.
3) My impression of "csimmsux" is he's willing to do stuff like cold 4 bet bluff if he thinks it will work.
4) I like my edge in this tournament.

also FYI my playing style live is a bit laggier(especially when deeper) than my online super nit style.

#2

1200/2400 - 300

Dealt AcKc UTG(~250k) and make it 7k, a really tight player(~140k) calls in Late Position, and Hoyt Corkins(~400k) makes it 30k in the BB. I called and other guy folds. Flop is Jd6h2d, Hoyt bets 44k and I fold.

Thoughts -

1)In our very brief history I have previously raised UTG twice and taken his BB, and I have 3 bet him pre and he has folded. I am not too sure if he's taken this personally, but it is a possibility.
2) I really don't know much about Hoyt's play style up to this point other than he's more aggressive than most Live Pros.
3) There is around 120 people left, 100 pay, and the next time there is a $20k jump is from 8th to 7th. The difference between 100th and 21-30th is $20k.

In retrospect I feel like perhaps I should have been more willing to get it in Preflop in both hands, but was wondering what you guys thought.

It looks like you played both hands fine. It seems in the first hand if you push you're merely guessing. The second hand I suppose you could push over Hoyt, but again I think I would take your line. Unlucky.

I take the same line in both the hands FWIW.

wp imo

WPT events are not 6 handed.

I play both the same with information given, though in hand one it is certainly not unreasonable to expect a player would be capable of a cold four bet here given the perceived image of bel0w and the fact that you all know who each other are, butI still find a fold with tens here if this is the only time he has shown the tendency for this.

Hand 2 is absolutely fine.

wow thats a sick structure, and I think u played both hands fine

I feel like if you are going to flat hand two then you should shove that flop a large percentage of the time.

 

Originally Posted by pokerjamers

it's tough to judge without being at the table and understanding the full dynamic with each player, but i could def see getting both hands in pre.

^^^ good hands but both are extremely read dependent.

in hand 1 i think if im stpauli111 i would get it in but i think simms' value and non value range would be wider vs me than vs you. oh and i'd prob just flat BA pf with those stacks tho i def mix it up.

given what you said about hoyt and what i already knew (not much other than he shoves 40bbs with ATo with no antes) i think i just get hand 2 in pf. i think he'll fold a lot and it will set your image up well and i just think its +ev anyways. that said i like flat calling too but i would at least be floating tons of flops even if i missed. you did get one of the worst flops though so as played i'd prob just fold.

Ok...hand 1- I'm pretty sure at this point I was gettin way out of line at the table as admitted to being on super tilt =/ Vs. most players I don't mind folding the TT, but I think this was the perfect spot to jam it. I don't hate folding either tho, bc occasionally Adam will have a real hand here and get opponents to go busto...I know this 1st hand.

That being said its always easier said then done. I had a similar spot where I opened for 5500 @ 1k-2k, Tim Vance flats, another guy flats, and Adam Geyer makes it 27k from the button. We both had about 160k or 170k and this seemed like a great spot to jam with little concern of the two flatters but eventually I chickened out and folded. Tim Vance flats w/ like 75k behind, other guy folds, and it becomes apparent to everyone at the table except Tim that Adam hates the fact that he didn't take the pot pre-flop.

Hand 2- I dont hate shoving, don't hate your line either. Especially nearing the money I probably ship it here as we want to see all 5 cards this late with AK and hoyt needs a huge hand to call your shove.

BeL0W

so looking at hoyts possible hands then "our" action....

AA, KK

fold - correct
raise - get pushed on - have to call
flat - fold most flops, go bust on a hi, k hi, get in bad on drawing boards

QQ

fold - meh
raise - hes probably calling, lets race
flat - fold most flops, raise c bet of a,k, flop...he fold...your hand seems somewhat transparent at this point

JJ, AK

fold - wrong
raise - i dunno how he plays, but as below says he has to have a huge hand to call, and these MAY not be in it
Flat - same as QQ for the most part except us raising a flop bet if he has AK on a non helping board

Anything else

fold - wrong
raise - hes folding
flat - same as above

Typing this out just makes me think folding or reraising is best....depending a lot on table image, and hoyt has a fairly aggresive side by reputation. I doubt folding, reraising, and flatting could really be THAT much different in terms of being right, but I think I would put flatting third? I dunno....

 

Originally Posted by P0KERPR033

1st Hand:

I think I move all in on preflop the first hand against Adam. Its just such a great spot to reraise you there. I agree with Kevin sometimes he will have a hand here but I think more often that not he is just taking advantage of a great situation.

2nd Hand:

I play the exact same way as you did.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

exactly what i was thinking