HAND 1--- Sorry don't have hh couldn't retrieve it from ftp. This was the 3rd hand of the plo portion of the ftops ha event...

15/30 5200 chips dealt AsAh6c4c i limp for 30 utg +2, utg +3 pots it to 135, button repots. They each have 5000 in chips. What do you do?

HAND 2----

Full Tilt Poker Game #13988155161: FTOPS Event #16 (96534555), Table 1 - 100/200 - Pot Limit Omaha H/L - 16:02:48 ET - 2009/08/12
Seat 1: XXXXXX (3,256)
Seat 2: XXXXXX (3,337)
Seat 3: XXXXXX (4,794)
Seat 4: XXXXXX (13,562)
Seat 5: XXXXXX (6,980)
Seat 6: XXXXXX (15,159)
Seat 7: Shamanilixir (16,062)
Seat 8: Lee Watkinson (3,490)
Seat 9: hero (14,036)
jersch posts the small blind of 100
treetop21 posts the big blind of 200
The button is in seat #9
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to TeamShizzz [9c Ah 2s 8c]
ArnieAA has reconnected
ArnieAA folds
Slava Anderson folds
Specialkmaster calls 200
absolutD37 folds
Shamanilixir calls 200
Lee Watkinson has 15 seconds left to act
Lee Watkinson calls 200
TeamShizzz calls 200
jersch folds
treetop21 checks
*** FLOP *** [6c 4c 9d]
treetop21 checks
Specialkmaster checks
Shamanilixir bets 200
Lee Watkinson raises to 1,700
TeamShizzz has 15 seconds left to act
TeamShizzz ???????

pot/flat?

results later

Tough spots for sure......no idea.

For Omaha H-Lo hand, TJ used to say, 'if you don't flop it, drop it'! What are you drawing to here.....a chance to maybe get 1/4'd on the low, and a chance to make a bad flush that could cost you all your chips? Get off cheap, and wait for the next good hand.

 

Originally Posted by aad

Hand 1:
just call. Pointless to repot unless you can get HU and all-in. You will be called by 2 players and you AAxx won't hold up post-flop unless you flop an ace on a rainbow board. It's early, don't go busto on AAxx yet.

Calling is BY FAR the worst option with such a ragged AAxx hand since it's so often going to flop horribly, especially in a 3-way pot. Either re-pot or muck. It'd be ideal to be able to get more of your stack in here if you decide to re-pot though, especially since you'll be OOP if one or both villains call... so I think folding is best. I'd much rather play some "lower variance" pots in position with stacks this deep. That said, I'm not a PLO MTTer so I could definitely be wrong...

 

Originally Posted by RANDYPET

For Omaha H-Lo hand, TJ used to say, 'if you don't flop it, drop it'! What are you drawing to here.....a chance to maybe get 1/4'd on the low, and a chance to make a bad flush that could cost you all your chips? Get off cheap, and wait for the next good hand.

i knew itd be gold when you were quoting tj...

first of all, limping is for little girls. second, what are you even playing that hand for if youre not gonna get it in on that flop? what are you afraid of? lee having aa23 with the nut club draw and costing you 3k in chips? that shimshamwatever dude minbetting a set with a2? turboinstamegajam
and stop letting everyone and their dog in to see a cheap flop when you have position and a playable hand.

 

Originally Posted by dave118

Hand 1- There is nothing wrong with flatting here. You are so deep that a raise WILL give away your aces. A flat leaves some doubt and you can still flop the winner. If you are going to fold aces preflop for 2% of your stack, you're in the wrong game.

It's been potted twice, so he'd be flatting OOP with one of the worst possible AAxx hands for ~10% of his stack. Flatting is horrible.

 

Originally Posted by SpankyHamm

Hand 1 - UGH - You don't want to see a flop multi-way, but you can't fold either. I mean - you could easily be up against AAxx and something like JT98 ds. But after two pot sized raises, I think all in could push out one of the hands and then your pretty much a favorite. I would shove (if that's enough for an all-in), walk away, go take a dump and hopefully see 10k+ chips in your stack when you get back.

Hand 2 - Fold seems easy here. There is no one card that can hit the turn that guarantees you a piece at the end (any low draw could be counterfeited, there could be a set or better flush draws). Easy fold.

U can't come close to repotting all in for hand one, only turn your hand face up and let one or both players call u with an absurdly good implied odds price. What are u gonna do post flop oop???? Completely disagree with hand 2. The min better has a very weak hand most of the time, and lee should be fairly wide. I'm shoving with top pair (99 blocker) a flsuh draw and the nut low draw and likely folding everyone else out so I don't get quartered

The first hand is a trivial re-pot. You can get about a third of your chips in with a re-raise and then you just shove pretty much every flop. Flatting is very bad, folding is better than flatting imo.

On the 2nd hand, I pretty much never play Omaha Hi/low, but I'm sure that folding this is ridiculous. I would shove.