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Two Low Limit Live Tells

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  1. xTEDFORRESTx xTEDFORRESTx is offline

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    Apr 17th, 2008 (4/17/2008 10:55am)

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    Two common tells, usually good at low limits, but I've occasionally seen them everywhere.
    IS IT ON ME?:
    This is usually pulled by the old tight player who is spending his retirement waiting for the nuts to bet. The one that starts to whine when people raise preflop since he can't limp in cheap. The one that gives you the dirty look if you dare to check raise, only bets on the river with the absolute nuts, and raises with pocket aces preflop about 50% of the time.
    So there is a flop, (there might have been a raise preflop and for some strange reason the old man called, or maybe it is just a few limpers), so anyways the flop comes, there is a bet and a raise, maybe even a re-raise. The action gets to the old man. A long wait. Finally the dealer points to the old nit. "Huh, what? Is it on me?". The old man has not been paying attention. He throws out a bet. "Sorry, Sir, it has been raised (or 3-bet)", says the dealer. "Huh, what? Who raised?", the old man looks at his cards again, looks at the flop, tries to pull back his bet and then, "Oh, I guess I will call", he says, disinterestedly.
    YEAH RIGHT! The tight old fart has cards that are so uninteresting he is not even paying attention to the action and needs to re-check his cards. YET AMAZINGLY, those cards are good enough to CALL 3 bets cold. HAHAHA. FOLD YOUR HAND NOW. HE HAS FLOPPED THE ALL TIME CANNOT BE BEAT NUTS. I would take the guy out in the parking lot and beat the crap out of him for such absolutely terrible awful bad acting -- if not for the number of times I have seen it work so well.
    What usually occurs is the 2nd and 3rd best hands get into a raising war with each other, not really paying attention to the tight nit who is content to call along, since he really didn't seem interested in the flop. Then they sit there open mouthed after he finally raises on the river, turns over the flopped nuts, and rakes in a huge pot.
    THE TRAFFIC COP:
    Usually a poker game has it's own pace. Sometimes someone bets or folds out of turn, or someone doesn't realize the action is on them, and the action goes around the table by fits and starts, prodded along as best it can by the dealer.
    Watch if the game pauses because someone misses the fact that it is their turn, or when 1 or 2 players bet out of turn, skipping a player. When a player suddenly starts playing "traffic cop" and starts doing the dealer's job or you hear "who is the action on?, Whose turn is it?" from the far end of the table.
    That player has the nuts. Unconsciencely, he is worried about some procedural error (although it almost cannot happen) is going to nullify "his" pot. He wants to make sure that everyone has their proper chance to put money into "his" pot. He also wants the game to run smoothly, quickly, and efficiently, so he can start stacking "his" chips. Therefore, he becomes the traffic cop, doing the job of the dealer, making sure everyone plays in turn and keeps moving at a nice pace.
    "Whose turn is it to bet?", next time when you hear that at the table coming from someone far from the action, watch what that person uttering the phrase turns over.
    DON'T BE CONFUSED:
    At almost any game you will find a player that tries to run the table (even when he is not in the hand) and every game has the old man who practically falls asleep between hands and always wants to know "who raised?"
    These tells are for exceptions.
    When the normally laid back player is all of sudden interested in keeping the pace moving, or quickly stops someone acting out of turn even before the dealer can open his mouth.
    When the normally sharp eyed old bird, suddenly can't remember what his cards are, but is willing to call more than the usual minimum bet.
    The exceptions are the tell, keep your eyes and ears open at the table, you will probably spot a lot more.

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  2. jeremy w jeremy w is offline

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    Apr 17th, 2008 (4/17/2008 11:17am) in reply to xTEDFORRESTx

    this is easily the 10,000,000,000th post ive seen on limit hold em tells

    yesterday's news
  3. AmarilloSlimJr AmarilloSlimJr is offline

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    Apr 17th, 2008 (4/17/2008 12:33pm) in reply to xTEDFORRESTx

    this post ends all controversy imo. tedforrest account is obv a level
  4. ShortStack3 ShortStack3 is offline

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    Apr 17th, 2008 (4/17/2008 12:54pm) in reply to xTEDFORRESTx

    How about the guy that sits there taking forever to decide what to do, starts shaking his head like he's confused and has such a tough decision, and sits there stacking and unstacking this 6 $1 chips (in a $3/$6 limit game) looking everyone at the table up and down like he's trying to get a read. Finally, after when seems like 15 minutes he announces raise and everyone insta-folds and he proudly flips over the stone cold nuts.

    Thanks jackass for wasting all that time when even the blind guy across the room knew what you had.
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