As some of you may or may not know on 10/20/2008 I beat mrsespn HU at the final table of the 100 1 rebuy 1 addon tournament on fulltilt. This was the same night that papaharkin and jasongray final tabled the nightly with each other. Mrcasino has admitted to not being able to play that night because he was at a bowling league (this obviously has no credibility but may be true.) It was my opinion at the conclusion of the final table that there was a chance I had not played against mrcasino because the person at this table played extremely solidly throughout and never once seemed to make any crazy plays and was only showing down good hands. Mkind watched a lot of the final table and suggested it might have been jasongray, i agreed it was possible. The fact that we both thought it was possible, BEFORE any of this stuff about mrcasino came to light is pretty telling, and now that it has I am pretty sure that I did not play against craig gray on mrsespn's account that night, because it is all making sense now. Did I play against jasongray? I don't know. That is for them to come out here and deny/confirm/explain and whatever.

to the people who will inevitabelly tell me that this is ridiculous and people change playing styles and a player with mrcasino's results is more than capable of mixing it up, I do agree. This is why I didn't jump to any conclusions, and as u can see in my AIM chat with Mkind below, my first instinct was just that mrsespn had gotten a lot better or wasn't quite as stupid as he let people believe (i was definitely wrong about that.) however with all of this new shit coming to light it just seems to all fit in place that there is no way i played against craig gray that night, and that it was most likely jasongray. I have played lots and lots with both players in the past year+some and know both of their games pretty well and it just never felt like casino was playing at that final table. Heres the AIM chat i had with mkind after the tournament
04:02] stpauli: dude
[04:02] stpauli: mrcasino
[04:02] stpauli: is good
[04:02] stpauli: im pretty sure
[04:02] stpauli: all of his posts
[04:02] mkind: whaaaaaaaaaaat
[04:02] stpauli: are just levels
[04:02] stpauli: he played so solid
[04:02] stpauli: at that ft

...

[04:05] mkind: i suppose every so often he'll play nitty for some reason
[04:05] mkind: maybe jason was playing
[04:06] stpauli: ya i ws thinkin mayb
[04:06] stpauli: that was it

so in conclusion this is all opinion, but i hope people will think it is a pretty well qualified one. it may very well not have been jasongray who was playing on mrsespn, but i definitely dont think it was craig gray. jasongray may possibly have also been innocent in that HH as well, but the burden of proof is definitely upon him to clear all these accusations and inferences and his current silence is definitely not helping his case. FWIW i have alwawys been good friends with jasongray as well, very friendly to him at the tables as well as mrcasino and i am not out to try to get either of them. i really hope that jasongray has a good explanation for all of this, but right now all indications are looking bad especially when the best thing gray has going for him is dwindling respect among lots of HSMTT players who are pretty irrational in their defense of him.

NOW for the second thing in this 100 cubed...

With 3 tables still left and not quite in the money (i dont think) Wretchy was seated to my right with a 9ish bb stack. It folded to him in the sb and I was in the BB with a big stack. He IM'ed me and said something to the extent of "plz dont call me here im huge." I cant remember exactly what he said. I had 37o or something I was going to fold anyways and folded. He told me after the hand he had AQ and sent me the HH. I wasnt sure what to make of it, if wretchy had not known that this is very much against the rules, or if he was just joking, or what and I didn't feel like being a huge dick about the situation so I just kinda shrugged it off, he didnt talk to me any more about hands midaction so i figured w/e. i did im it to andy mcleod tho who didn't like my benign reaction to it all but respected me when i said not to make a big deal about it or tell anyone.

then either the next day or two days later, i'm not sure which, we are in the exact same situation in the exact same tournament. Wretchy is to my right, i have a lot of chips, this time he's shorter i think like 5-6 bbs and he im's me and says "will you fold if i shove." Again i was rly suprised that he would be talking about stuff like this midhand but this time i rly cant let it slide so i tell him "man we really arent allowed to talk about this stuff mid hand" and he said "i know i was just joking" and he folded. I again told this to mcleod but didn't really feel like it was that big of a deal and we both just decided to keep quiet about it.

that was until today when andy mcleod felt the need to disclose this information to everyone (not my decision..) and now i feel the need to back up one of my closest friends in the online poker world and let everyone know what happened. FWIW i have heard that i'm not the only person Wretchy has done this with and I would highly doubt that Wretchy is the only person who has done/is doing this.

As for you Wretchy, I'm really sorry man. You have been nothing but supportive of me my entire poker career, I had lots of fun with you in Vegas, I'm very happy for your recent success and hope that you can sustain it. I really hope that you don't feel this is personal or I'm against you in anyway. But what's fact is fact and you definitely should have known better.

here's the HH from the 100 cubed, hands with mrcasino/mrsespn start at around 302

http://www.pokerxfactor.com/servlet/...102_234617.txt

How many p5ers have enough money left after another pointless sunday to buy enough popcorn to get through this week?

My head hurts.

 

Originally Posted by stpauli111

and he said "i know i was just joking" and he folded.

story is impossible, no way wretchy is folding 6 bbs when folded to him in the sb

idk anything about the gray bros. situation, but as for wretchy, he says/does stuff like that all the time ("pleeeeeeeeease fold" etc) whether on AIM or at the tables, but i can say with 100% certainty when he asks during the hand whether youll fold (which is obv bad etiquette regardless) that hes just jokin around, not actually asking or hoping for an answer of any kind. also i'm sure/hope that after this it's something he won't do again.

 

Originally Posted by AJKHoosier1

wretchy says/does stuff like that all the time ("pleeeeeeeeease fold" etc) whether on AIM or at the tables, but i can say with 100% certainty when he asks during the hand whether youll fold (which is obv bad etiquette regardless) that hes just jokin around, not actually asking or hoping for an answer of any kind. also i'm sure/hope that after this it's something he won't do again.

wouldnt it be funny if someone told him yes, then he shoves, they call, and he shows 94o? then it wouldnt really be that good of a joke, would it?

 

Originally Posted by AJKHoosier1

idk anything about the gray bros. situation, but as for wretchy, he says/does stuff like that all the time ("pleeeeeeeeease fold" etc) whether on AIM or at the tables, but i can say with 100% certainty when he asks during the hand whether youll fold (which is obv bad etiquette regardless) that hes just jokin around, not actually asking or hoping for an answer of any kind. also i'm sure/hope that after this it's something he won't do again.

this

ive never thougth wretchy to be serious when making the statements, just playful banter. and saygin "please fold, i'm huge" is against the rules? what about when that stuff happens live?

 

Originally Posted by Andy McLEOD

 

Originally Posted by AJKHoosier1

idk anything about the gray bros. situation, but as for wretchy, he says/does stuff like that all the time ("pleeeeeeeeease fold" etc) whether on AIM or at the tables, but i can say with 100% certainty when he asks during the hand whether youll fold (which is obv bad etiquette regardless) that hes just jokin around, not actually asking or hoping for an answer of any kind. also i'm sure/hope that after this it's something he won't do again.

ok and how about when he tells people he's huge here and that they should fold, is that a joke too - it's obvious he does it with strong but not premium hands like AQ / TT where he doesn't want to be put in a tough spot were the person he is telling to fold to put more money in. i have been told he does this on a resteal stack where he tells friends to fold so he can jam over a raise.

How much more do you know that 95% of this sites population would like to know?

 

Originally Posted by holdplz

and saygin "please fold, i'm huge" is against the rules? what about when that stuff happens live?

ya pretty sure this is against the rules, even live, but especially in an im conversation that no one can see except the 2 ppl in the hand

Andy is still bitter that he got called out for being underage.
I enjoy that about him though, bring down all the highstakes mtters aussie man go go go go.

Well disguised brag post about winning the 100 cubed.

 

Originally Posted by xxjondxx

Well disguised brag post about winning the 100 cubed twice in 3 days and getting 5th the day in between.

Hick

oops guess im wrong

 

Originally Posted by xxjondxx

Well disguised brag post about winning the 100 cubed.

ive always hated asians, but nice read jond

im pretty sure, even live, even if u make sure everyone at the table hears, ur not allowed to talk about ur hand or tell the person what to do. pretty sure i even saw this ruling in one of the ME episodes.