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Type of players playing Stars $4-180 sngs

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  1. tigertoes tigertoes is offline

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    Nov 22nd, 2006 (11/22/2006 8:10pm)

    Thought I'd give one of these a go. Here's the type of players I ran into. Side note the guy I'm involved with has shown down some sad looking hands. Including a reraise all in with third best. I had been playing fairly tight up to this point. I like these guys rational....I hear the 11's-180 are similar?

    pokerstars Game #<SPAN id=lw_1164247388_14>7133808151</SPAN>: Tournament #36454598, $4.00+$0.40 Hold'em
    No Limit - Level VI (100/200) - 2006/11/22 - 20:43:35 (ET)
    Table '36454598 15' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
    Seat 1: BRIAN2038 (2605 in chips)
    Seat 3: carp1313 (2445 in chips)
    Seat 4: StephanieD (8206 in chips)
    Seat 5: sunnyQBEE (3933 in chips)
    Seat <SPAN id=lw_1164247388_15>6: NICKY WHITE</SPAN> (8335 in chips)
    Seat 7: jllazamania (13252 in chips)
    Seat 8: soonerphil (4900 in chips)
    Seat 9: seevert44 (4700 in chips)
    sunnyQBEE: posts small blind <SPAN id=lw_1164247388_16>100 NICKY WHITE</SPAN>: posts big blind 200
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to soonerphil [Js As]
    jllazamania: folds
    soonerphil: raises 400 to 600
    seevert44: folds
    BRIAN2038: folds
    carp1313: folds
    StephanieD: folds
    sunnyQBEE: folds
    NICKY WHITE: calls 400
    *** FLOP *** [2c Tc <SPAN id=lw_1164247388_17>6s]
    NICKY WHITE</SPAN>: checks
    soonerphil: bets <SPAN id=lw_1164247388_18>800
    NICKY WHITE</SPAN>: calls 800
    *** TURN *** [2c Tc 6s] [<SPAN id=lw_1164247388_19>8c]
    NICKY WHITE</SPAN>: checks
    soonerphil: checks
    *** RIVER *** [2c Tc 6s 8c] [Qs]
    NICKY WHITE: checks
    soonerphil: bets <SPAN id=lw_1164247388_20>1200
    NICKY WHITE</SPAN>: calls 1200
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    soonerphil: shows [Js As] (high card Ace)
    NICKY WHITE: shows [2h 5h] (a pair of Deuces)
    NICKY WHITE collected 5300 from pot
    soonerphil said, "?"
    NICKY WHITE said, "i let u value bet for me"
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 5300 | Rake 0
    Board [2c Tc 6s 8c Qs]
    Seat 1: BRIAN2038 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 3: carp1313 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 4: StephanieD (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 5: sunnyQBEE (small blind) folded before Flop
    Seat <SPAN id=lw_1164247388_21>6: NICKY WHITE</SPAN> (big blind) showed [2h 5h] and won (5300) with a
    pair of Deuces
    Seat 7: jllazamania folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 8: soonerphil showed [Js As] and lost with high card Ace
    Seat 9: seevert44 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
  2. showtime90 showtime90 is offline

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    Nov 22nd, 2006 (11/22/2006 8:16pm) in reply to tigertoes

    loooooooooolllz and they always gotta speak up in the end to make them look even more stupid
  3. No1CeLtSfAn34 No1CeLtSfAn34 is offline

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    Nov 22nd, 2006 (11/22/2006 8:17pm) in reply to tigertoes

    No idea, but you should just showed down the AJ on the river if you knew he'd call you with anything. There was ABSOLUTELY no value in betting that river at all. Obv he wasn't competent enough to give you credit for the Q, so you need to realized that and save your 1200. You need to accept your responsibility there too.
  4. tigertoes tigertoes is offline

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    Nov 22nd, 2006 (11/22/2006 8:22pm) in reply to No1CeLtSfAn34

    yes you are correct.. and looking back I donked off too many chips. I just let my ego get in the way. Lesson learned....have a hand when you play these type players!
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  5. DEADF1SH DEADF1SH is offline

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    Nov 22nd, 2006 (11/22/2006 10:47pm) in reply to tigertoes

    $4 180's are brutal, they attrack $1 SnG players trying to make a big score. You cannot bluff except on the bubble and once your down to 2 tables. The upside is that they will call all in with top pair on a 3 flushed or 3 st8ed flop, if you put them all in. They think every other big bet is a bluff.

    They arent' going to think through the hand like you will. It's final table WSOP to them. ie... you raise preflop, check a 2 flush board, check the 3rd flush on the turn and check raise your opponent's bet, He's hanging on to the T with his Ace kicker for all his chips. You can't bluff them off a pair. I just lay low, usually get SS and manage to double up 2 or three times with the near nutz, they will pay off... It's low risk high reward preflop bets and calls til the blinds hit 150, then go to work.

    "Adam" has a great post on SnG's that works great for the $4/180, you have to have disipline, but you don't get busted out on as many bad beats using it, once th blinds hit $150.

    And remember, you can't bluff a fish with 2nd pair.
  6. AFink93 AFink93 is offline

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    Nov 22nd, 2006 (11/22/2006 10:51pm) in reply to tigertoes

    Yep. Every single player who plays 4.40's are horrible. Every single one of them.. LOL
  7. DEADF1SH DEADF1SH is offline

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    Nov 22nd, 2006 (11/22/2006 11:00pm) in reply to DEADF1SH

    con't: once the blinds hit $150 loosen little but not much
  8. MUCK KARDS MUCK KARDS is offline

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    Nov 23rd, 2006 (11/23/2006 12:17am) in reply to tigertoes

    pokerstars Game #7137608102: Tournament #36478891, $4.00+$0.40 Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2006/11/23 - 01:15:37 (ET)
    Table '36478891 12' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
    Seat 1: alecsean (1500 in chips)
    Seat 2: Flush_edges (940 in chips)
    Seat 3: ianks (1770 in chips)
    Seat 4: Handretti (1430 in chips)
    Seat 5: shstang (1780 in chips)
    Seat 6: DChipMagnet (3120 in chips)
    Seat 7: coolio98 (1460 in chips)
    Seat 8: RR005 (1500 in chips)
    Seat 9: steeltown905 (1500 in chips)
    DChipMagnet: posts small blind 10
    coolio98: posts big blind 20
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to ianks [Ts Tc]
    RR005: folds
    steeltown905: folds
    alecsean: folds
    Flush_edges: calls 20
    ianks: raises 100 to 120
    Handretti: folds
    shstang: folds
    DChipMagnet: folds
    coolio98: folds
    Flush_edges: calls 100
    *** FLOP *** [Qc 9h Jd]
    Flush_edges: bets 60
    ianks: calls 60
    *** TURN *** [Qc 9h Jd] [Kd]
    Flush_edges: bets 200
    ianks: calls 200
    *** RIVER *** [Qc 9h Jd Kd] [Ks]
    Flush_edges: bets 200
    ianks: raises 820 to 1020
    Flush_edges: calls 360 and is all-in
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    ianks: shows [Ts Tc] (a straight, Nine to King)
    Flush_edges: shows [7s Ah] (a pair of Kings)
    ianks collected 1910 from pot
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 1910 | Rake 0
    Board [Qc 9h Jd Kd Ks]
    Seat 1: alecsean folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 2: Flush_edges showed [7s Ah] and lost with a pair of Kings
    Seat 3: ianks showed [Ts Tc] and won (1910) with a straight, Nine to King
    Seat 4: Handretti folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 5: shstang (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 6: DChipMagnet (small blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 7: coolio98 (big blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 8: RR005 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 9: steeltown905 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
  9. bdubs3737 bdubs3737 is offline

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    Nov 23rd, 2006 (11/23/2006 3:31am) in reply to MUCK KARDS

    i rarely click on posts like this cuz i just assume its a bad beat, but since i did take the time to read this im gonna give u my thoughts on this hand.

    first off, i expected a much worse beat than this....and trust me i know there are mannnnny bad players out there but i dont think this hand is that bad at all. Hes a big stack inthe bb. nothing wrong with calling 400 from the bb with low suited cards. he figures he flops the best hand and he check calls, nothing wrong with that and if i had been in his situation i think i might have done the exact same thing. on the turn u both do the right thing, but on the river while he makes the right check call, i believe you played it poorly and bet the river.

    trust me i know there are really bad players out there, but i think ther was nothing wrong with his play here
     
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