I came home to find my UB account hacked. I didnt have that much money in there at all maybe 2k tops but this is getting fucking ridiculous. I have no key loggers on my comp so im guessing this guy got my shit through one of pj9s comps when he hacked him. This shit has to stop I for one know im cashing off all my money on the other sites and just say fuck it. This is a joke. The sites better do something collectively to find whoever is behind this and stop it because I for one know a lot of people have lost a desire to play online and risk losing a ton of money because of someone hacking their shit. Congratulations to our government too for making it 100000x more lucrative and desirable for hackers to hack online poker accounts knowing that americans have much larger sums of money on these accounts.

uh.. UB support number plz

thanks for the help man. so sick of all this hacking bullshit going on. ridiculous

.....aaaaaand that has NOTHING to do with the poker sites themselves. learn to protect YOUR investments by NOT using other peoples' comps maybe?

Yeah your right it has nothing to do with the sites, they have no obligation to protect the people that keep the site up and running. Using ur logic y dont they just let people get robbed in casinos if they have a large sum of money on them, i mean after all its obv their fault for having that money in the casino. The casino / online site has an obligation to keep their patrons safe whether thats right or wrong. Who wants to play somewhere where people continue to get robber / hacked. UB has had A TON of recent hacking problems and if that continues, if you dont think that is going to effect people from wanting to play on that site ur nuts.

To be honest zuke, I understand your mad, but it has nothing to do with UB. Peoples accounts have been getting hacked at everysite, its an internet and virus problem, not a UB problem. The only thing i could think they could do, is not let you play if your not on your usual IP address, but that would just be a pain in the ass to people who travel, or play diffrent places. If a keylogger has your info, there is not much you can do. I just don't get what you expect.......

wrong.

at a casino, you BUY CHIPS when you sit down. they have no obligation to make sure that you get your money TO THEM in a safe way or not...as long as you get it to them. they don't recommend that you use a certain bank or send someone to the ATM with you to make sure no one is looking over your shoulder as you type in your pin number.

online, you DEPOSIT and get credits to play with. sites do actually give you options on HOW to deposit, but it is in no way their obligation to hold your hand when you do. if you are looking at porn, downloading files from strangers or internet "friends", or letting actual friends log on to your accounts, then you are putting yourself at risk. this is not the poker site's fault. nothing they did caused you to somehow leak out your information. if you want to be protected from hackers, PROTECT YOURSELF. to begin, you should stop blaming others. then google information on computer protection or something like that. it's not that hard but it might cost you some money (far less than what has been reported as being stolen).

you have the option to cash out at any time. you don't have to keep all of your money online. it's not up to the poker sites to make sure you keep your information safeguarded. they warn you when you deposit/sign up just to protect themselves legally.

So you go to a casino purchase 2000 dollars in chips and as u walk away a man walks up to u and robs u. Hey ohh well ur fault. You shoulda put them in a safe right away or never bought them to begin with. The casino doesnt have any obligation to protect you while your money is in the casino... that makes sense thanks for clearing it up

you weren't "in the casino" when you were "robbed" though...were you??? as soon as someone walks out of the casino on to las vegas blvd, its no longer the casino's problem if the person gets mugged. the difference here is that you WEREN'T MUGGED. you were careless with your info and someone took advantage of it. its like letting someone see your pin number, then swiping your atm card and using it to take out cash.

that should make it a little more clear for you since you don't seem to understand.

What zuke is saying is having the sites be more strict. WHen you log in from a differnt IP adress it should ask you a security question or they should send you a email saying you can not log on at this time due to IP adress xxxxxxx not matching your original login. poker factor has this so no one can buy a membership and have 9 buddies use it.

Its not about where u physically are at the time your robbed. When u put money online into an account you are trusting that the site is going to keep that money secure and safe for you. NOW in this case my shit got hacked (which is my fault) but why is it too much to ask for the site to have better protection against hacking. My point of making this thread was not to say i fucked up but its ubs fault, my point is that online sites should increase securtiy bottom line. I just thought of this idea... What if the sites have a number system that u use as ur password. Now, this number that u use to login in changes everytime you log out of the site. They can then text you ur new number or you can call an autmatic system (after asnwering security questions) and get that number. This way there is no possible way to use a key logger (which seems to be the primary thing used to get passwords) obtaining a password would then be rendered useless

because that would cost THEM money!

the system they have in place now works fine as long as you don't somehow leak your information. they already pay money to keep your money secure once on their sites (no one can get your money without your password). whether your PROTECT YOUR PASSWORDS or not is entirely up to YOU, not the sites.

AND.. you know for a fact they keep your money secure.. FUNNY i remember neteller telling me the same thing and yet my money is now frozen in limbo on there. Thats my fault too i guess, they obv are keeping it safe. so safe they wont give it back

i got 100% of my money off netteller before it was frozen. at the first sign of trouble, you should have prepared yourself for the worst.

but...its the site's fault I'M SURE. not yours in the least.

Yeah, i give you a bad name by trying to come up with a way to make online accounts more secure? If we lived in your brilliant world there would be no laws and no reason for the government to protect anyone. I mean shit if you walk in a bad neighborhood its obv ur fault if you get killed. If your a girl and u wear revealing clothes OBV your fault you got raped. No need to protect anyone from anything right? People should just protect themselves and fuck everyone else. I love that logic. Thanks for adding aboslutely jack shit to this thread besides trying to turn it into something its not. As opposed to contributing something to BETTER online poker you would rather just leave shit alone. Because God knows anything to make online poker more secure is pointless and costly to the poooooor sites.