I recently won an a late night $25k guar. on UB (ef $215) and took down $7290 for 1st pl. However, I later found out that UB had removed $1900 from my account and forwarded the money to my opponet. To make a long story short: UB claimed that my opponet (kmitch24) and I agreed to a deal (which is false), and so UB had duly transferred $1900 from my account to my opoponet's.

UB never addressed the issue with me, even though I talked to one represenative on the phone and received several generic emails; in short UB's answer to me was that they decided to give my opponet a deal, and so they took money from my account and xferred it to him. Curiously, I have yet to hear any response from UB after I emailed them a short snippet I found UB's website, rule 6:

"UltimateBet.com does not sanction, facillate, or enforce deals. If you make a deal you are doing so at your own risk and deal making is not allowed in the chat box at the table. Prize pools are awarded according to the prize pool payout listed within the tournament information page for that event. Deals are not enforced by the cardroom. "

I am left wondering how could this be true? I just won a tournament, and then BIG BROTHER decided that they would enforce a bogus deal that directly clashes with their very own house rules! The whole situation leaves me sick in the stomach.

There was a thread about a week ago when a player stated that he had chopped the money with a player but was stiffed by the player taking first. He typed gg and immediately logged off!! All in last hand was AK vs AT if I remember correctly. This doesnt happen to be you does it?

Sound Familiar???? From Kmitch about a week ago! Please explain!!!

I was playing the 9:30 UB $200 15 on Tues. night when it got down to myself and a player named "michaeleahci" (pocketfives handle "FLEXnash") heads up at the FT.  He immediately wanted to make a deal, and since I had a chip lead of about 190k to 145k when negotiations started, we, after much debate, agreed on me getting $6100 to his $5510.  The biggest sticking point was that he wanted credit for the "win" so that he would look better on pocketfives, and I, not caring about that, agreed against my better judgment.  He seemed like a standup guy, and was adamant that he wouldn't screw me over.  Well, almost immediately upon my agreeing to the deal, he pushed all in.  Since UB won't let you chat when a player is all in, I didn't know what he wanted me to do, so I finally just called his all in with A10 (not that it matters, but had there been no deal in place I obviously would not have called his push for 30x BB with A10), with the thinking that I was probably dominated (I was-- he had AK and it held), but that if I happened to suckout I would just transfer to him what he was owed and he'd have to live without the glory of a "win".  Well, that hand left me crippled, and the tourney ended the next hand when I called off my remaining chips on rags and his hand held.  He said "gg" and left the table and immediately logged out.  I never told him my name in order to transfer funds, and he's been logged out ever since.  Now, hopefully this is just an oversight on his part, but I'm getting the feeling that he has no intention of paying me the $1700 or so that he owes me, and I have a feeling that it's because he thinks that I was trying to win because I called with A10 (it would have looked a bit more like I was trying to lose if I had called with 72 or something).  I don't know if you guys have access to the chat logs, but if you look, you can clearly see that, after much back and forth between us over the course of about 10 min., the last chat that he said was "so, do we have a deal?", and I replied "y, i guess so".  Immediately after I typed that in, he pushed in, and I was left wondering what he wanted me to do with my hand.  I contacted UB, and of course they said that they don't get involved.  Other sites let you stop play in order to discuss deals and will even chop the pot up for you so that you don't have to rely on the word of some guy you've never met before to send you money.  Bottom line is that I should've just gone with my gut and said "no deals" and taken him down the regular way, but since he seemed honest and seemed really concerned with his p5 ranking and I wanted to go to bed, I agreed.  Please tell me, one of you guys, that there is something that can be done since UB won't do it.  I played sick poker for six hours, took down 2nd place money, and yet I'm on life tilt because of how this all went down.

Sounds like you tried to make a deal then run off the first place money. You will get some serious heat for this.

UB can show you the chat history,,,ask for it

Ok...whether you made the deal or not...UB had no right transfering money from your account to to kmitch as stated in their rules...

I know it's completely unethical and you actually got what you deserved for screwing someone (if in fact you did agree to a deal)...but it's about the principle of UB completely going against their own rules...

yes,

UB emailed me the chat history. It clearly shows that my opponet and I were negotiating, while still continuing to play a few hands. During this negotiating process, I pushed allin and my opponet subsequently called. I won that big hand, and our deal negotiations ceased (as I now had 90% of all chips). The match ended after 3 or 4 more hands.

Below is the 2nd half of the chat. Basically, Kmitch24 and michaeleahci (that's me, FLEXnash) were trying to make a deal, or chop 1st and 2nd. I wanted to finsih 1st officially for the points on P5s and so I offered Kmitch24 some extra dough in exchange for 1st. He seemed to want to make a deal, but was worried about getting the money (if he allowed me to take 1st). Anyway, we played several hands at a slow pace and basically I proposed some specific cash figures and Kmitch24 basically declined while still agreeing to negotiate. I should reiterate that we continued to play the hands out because no specifici deal had been acknowledged.

The chat that appears below is the end of our match. On the big hand where I have AK and kmitch24 calls allin w/ A10, some explanation is in order. Kmitch raises to 15k and I ask 'deal'? as I have asked several times previously. This time, I am referring to a 50/50 chop, as I recently evened out the stack sizes (apparently Kmitch24 still believes that I was offering a 55/45 chop; just more evidence that we had no specific deal in mind up to this point). I look down at AK and wait for his response; he doesnt respond, so I push allin, fully expecting him to fold and for us to talk specifics of a deal on the next hand. His response 'y, i guess so' was sent basically at the same time that i pushed allin (such that i recall pushing allin before he even responded).

Kmitch24 calling my allin bet was essentially his declining any deal. Kmitch24 knows he shouldnt have called my allin bet because, if he were to win that race, then he would have fiinished 1st officially and therefore not fulfilled his side of a proposed deal (remember this was the main point in my proposing we make a deal). His call was therefore his decision to finish the match off by 'playing it out'.

This is the main point which I want to emphasize: Kmitch24 and I had been negotiating while still continuing to play; his decision to make an allin call that would effectively decide the winner of the match was his prerogative. If he truly wanted a deal, then it would have been simple and easy to fold and to later finalize a deal at the slow pace with which we were playing the match.

There is no more chat after that big hand, because I had nothing to say, and apparently niether did Kmitch24. If he were expecting a deal, he should surely have continued to chat. He claims that b/c someone was allin that chat was disabled; however chat was available to him in the final few hands when it was his option to first call/raise/fold.

<TABLE cellSpacing=0 border=2><TBODY><TR vAlign=bottom><TH width=22 bgColor=#b0b0b0></TH><TH noWrap align=middle width=465 bgColor=#b0b0b0>A</TH></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>1</TH><TD noWrap>Hand #38769182-186 at Tue930pm25K-Final (No Limit tournament Hold'em)</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>2</TH><TD noWrap>Started at 17/Jan/07 02:47:36</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>3</TH><TD noWrap>michaeleahci is at seat 6 with 149180.</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>4</TH><TD noWrap>Big Puns is at seat 9 with 188320.</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>5</TH><TD noWrap>The button is at seat 9.</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>6</TH><TD></TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>7 </TH><TD noWrap>michaeleahci posts ante (500).</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>8</TH><TD noWrap>Big Puns posts ante (500).</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>9</TH><TD noWrap>The button is moved to seat 6.</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>10</TH><TD noWrap>michaeleahci posts the small blind of 2500.</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>11</TH><TD noWrap>Big Puns posts the big blind of 5000.</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>12</TH><TD noWrap>michaeleahci, at seat 6, is in this hand.</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>13</TH><TD noWrap>Big Puns, at seat 9, is in this hand.</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>14</TH><TD></TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>15 </TH><TD noWrap>Big Puns is dealt:</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>16</TH><TD noWrap>michaeleahci is dealt:</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>17</TH><TD noWrap>Big Puns is dealt:</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>18</TH><TD noWrap>michaeleahci is dealt:</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>19</TH><TD></TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>20 </TH><TD noWrap>Pre-flop:</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>21</TH><TD noWrap>michaeleahci says "what do u propose?".</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>22</TH><TD noWrap>michaeleahci calls.</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>23</TH><TD noWrap>Big Puns raises to 13000.</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>24</TH><TD noWrap>Big Puns says "if it's that important to you, then 6300".</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>25</TH><TD noWrap>michaeleahci says "dude, ur getting $400 extra".</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>26</TH><TD noWrap>Big Puns says "and i have to see the money in my acct b4 i give you the win".</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>27</TH><TD noWrap>michaeleahci says "i think that is fair".</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>28</TH><TD noWrap>Big Puns says "then lets play it out".</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>29</TH><TD noWrap>michaeleahci folds.</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>30</TH><TD noWrap>Big Puns is returned 8000 (uncalled).</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>31</TH><TD></TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>32 </TH><TD noWrap>Big Puns says "i'm not trying to be a dick".</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>33</TH><TD></TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>34 </TH><TD noWrap>Hand #38769182-186 Summary:</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>35</TH><TD noWrap>No rake is taken for this hand.</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>36</TH><TD noWrap>Big Puns wins 11000.</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>37</TH><TD noWrap>Hand 38769182-186 ends.</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>38</TH><TD noWrap>Hand 38769182-187 begins.</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>39</TH><TD></TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>40 </TH><TD noWrap>Hand #38769182-187 at Tue930pm25K-Final (No Limit tournament Hold'em)</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>41</TH><TD noWrap>Started at 17/Jan/07 02:48:44</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>42</TH><TD noWrap>michaeleahci is at seat 6 with 143680.</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>43</TH><TD noWrap>Big Puns is at seat 9 with 193820.</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>44</TH><TD noWrap>The button is at seat 6.</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>45</TH><TD></TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>46 </TH><TD noWrap>michaeleahci posts ante (500).</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>47</TH><TD noWrap>Big Puns posts ante (500).</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>48</TH><TD noWrap>The button is moved to seat 9.</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>49</TH><TD noWrap>Big Puns posts the small blind of 2500.</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>50</TH><TD noWrap>michaeleahci posts the big blind of 5000.</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>51</TH><TD noWrap>michaeleahci, at seat 6, is in this hand.</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>52</TH><TD noWrap>Big Puns, at seat 9, is in this hand.</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>53</TH><TD></TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>54 </TH><TD noWrap>michaeleahci is dealt:</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>55</TH><TD noWrap>Big Puns is dealt:</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>56</TH><TD noWrap>michaeleahci is dealt:</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>57</TH><TD noWrap>Big Puns is dealt:</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>58</TH><TD></TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>59 </TH><TD noWrap>Pre-flop:</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>60</TH><TD noWrap>michaeleahci says "hmm".</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>61</TH><TD noWrap>Big Puns raises to 15000.</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>62</TH><TD noWrap>Big Puns says "i'm just trying to protect myself".</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>63</TH><TD noWrap>michaeleahci says "did u goto pocketfives.com?".</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>64</TH><TD noWrap>Big Puns says "i'm good hu".</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>65</TH><TD noWrap>michaeleahci re-raises to 45000.</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>66</TH><TD noWrap>Big Puns folds.</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>67</TH><TD noWrap>michaeleahci is returned 30000 (uncalled).</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>68</TH><TD></TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>69 </TH><TD></TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>70 </TH><TD noWrap>Hand #38769182-187 Summary:</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>71</TH><TD noWrap>No rake is taken for this hand.</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>72</TH><TD noWrap>michaeleahci wins 31000.</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>73</TH><TD noWrap>Hand 38769182-187 ends.</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>74</TH><TD noWrap>Hand 38769182-188 begins.</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>75</TH><TD></TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>76 </TH><TD noWrap>Hand #38769182-188 at Tue930pm25K-Final (No Limit tournament Hold'em)</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>77</TH><TD noWrap>Started at 17/Jan/07 02:49:28</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>78</TH><TD noWrap>michaeleahci is at seat 6 with 159180.</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>79</TH><TD noWrap>Big Puns is at seat 9 with 178320.</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>80</TH><TD noWrap>The button is at seat 9.</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>81</TH><TD></TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>82 </TH><TD noWrap>michaeleahci posts ante (500).</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>83</TH><TD noWrap>Big Puns posts ante (500).</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>84</TH><TD noWrap>The button is moved to seat 6.</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>85</TH><TD noWrap>michaeleahci posts the small blind of 2500.</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>86</TH><TD noWrap>Big Puns posts the big blind of 5000.</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>87</TH><TD noWrap>michaeleahci, at seat 6, is in this hand.</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>88</TH><TD noWrap>Big Puns, at seat 9, is in this hand.</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>89</TH><TD></TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>90 </TH><TD noWrap>Big Puns is dealt:</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>91</TH><TD noWrap>michaeleahci is dealt:</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>92</TH><TD noWrap>Big Puns is dealt:</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>93</TH><TD noWrap>michaeleahci is dealt:</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>94</TH><TD></TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>95 </TH><TD noWrap>Pre-flop:</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>96</TH><TD noWrap>Big Puns says "why won't you transfer now?".</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>97</TH><TD noWrap>Big Puns says "if it's that important to you?".</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>98</TH><TD noWrap>michaeleahci folds.</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>99</TH><TD noWrap>Big Puns is returned 2500 (uncalled).</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>100</TH><TD></TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>101 </TH><TD></TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>102 </TH><TD noWrap>Hand #38769182-188 Summary:</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>103</TH><TD noWrap>No rake is taken for this hand.</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>104</TH><TD noWrap>Big Puns wins 6000.</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>105</TH><TD noWrap>Hand 38769182-188 ends.</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>106</TH><TD noWrap>michaeleahci says "i will".</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>107</TH><TD noWrap>Hand 38769182-189 begins.</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>108</TH><TD></TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>109 </TH><TD noWrap>Hand #38769182-189 at Tue930pm25K-Final (No Limit tournament Hold'em)</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>110</TH><TD noWrap>Started at 17/Jan/07 02:50:04</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>111</TH><TD noWrap>michaeleahci is at seat 6 with 156180.</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>112</TH><TD noWrap>Big Puns is at seat 9 with 181320.</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>113</TH><TD noWrap>The button is at seat 6.</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>114</TH><TD></TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>115 </TH><TD noWrap>michaeleahci posts ante (500).</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>116</TH><TD noWrap>Big Puns posts ante (500).</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>117</TH><TD noWrap>The button is moved to seat 9.</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>118</TH><TD noWrap>Big Puns posts the small blind of 2500.</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>119</TH><TD noWrap>michaeleahci posts the big blind of 5000.</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>120</TH><TD noWrap>michaeleahci, at seat 6, is in this hand.</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>121</TH><TD noWrap>Big Puns, at seat 9, is in this hand.</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>122</TH><TD></TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>123 </TH><TD noWrap>michaeleahci is dealt:</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>124</TH><TD noWrap>Big Puns is dealt:</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>125</TH><TD noWrap>michaeleahci is dealt:</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>126</TH><TD noWrap>Big Puns is dealt:</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>127</TH><TD></TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>128 </TH><TD noWrap>Pre-flop:</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>129</TH><TD noWrap>Big Puns raises to 14000.</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>130</TH><TD noWrap>michaeleahci says "i can xfer $700 now".</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>131</TH><TD noWrap>michaeleahci says "thats all i got".</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>132</TH><TD noWrap>michaeleahci says "then i xfer the rest".</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>133</TH><TD noWrap>Big Puns says "sigh".</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>134</TH><TD noWrap>Big Puns says "i'll roast you on p5s if you dick me".</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>135</TH><TD noWrap>michaeleahci folds.</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>136</TH><TD noWrap>Big Puns is returned 9000 (uncalled).</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>137</TH><TD></TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>138 </TH><TD></TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>139 </TH><TD noWrap>Hand #38769182-189 Summary:</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>140</TH><TD noWrap>No rake is taken for this hand.</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>141</TH><TD noWrap>Big Puns wins 11000.</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>142</TH><TD noWrap>Hand 38769182-189 ends.</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>143</TH><TD noWrap>(michaeleahci has entered the table, is no longer absent.)</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>144</TH><TD noWrap>Hand 38769182-190 begins.</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>145</TH><TD></TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>146 </TH><TD noWrap>Hand #38769182-190 at Tue930pm25K-Final (No Limit tournament Hold'em)</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>147</TH><TD noWrap>Started at 17/Jan/07 02:51:00</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>148</TH><TD noWrap>michaeleahci is at seat 6 with 150680.</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>149</TH><TD noWrap>Big Puns is at seat 9 with 186820.</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>150</TH><TD noWrap>The button is at seat 9.</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>151</TH><TD></TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>152 </TH><TD noWrap>michaeleahci posts ante (500).</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>153</TH><TD noWrap>Big Puns posts ante (500).</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>154</TH><TD noWrap>The button is moved to seat 6.</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>155</TH><TD noWrap>michaeleahci posts the small blind of 2500.</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>156</TH><TD noWrap>Big Puns posts the big blind of 5000.</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>157</TH><TD noWrap>michaeleahci, at seat 6, is in this hand.</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>158</TH><TD noWrap>Big Puns, at seat 9, is in this hand.</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>159</TH><TD></TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>160 </TH><TD noWrap>Big Puns is dealt:</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>161</TH><TD noWrap>michaeleahci is dealt:</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>162</TH><TD noWrap>Big Puns is dealt:</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>163</TH><TD noWrap>michaeleahci is dealt:</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>164</TH><TD></TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>165 </TH><TD noWrap>Pre-flop:</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>166</TH><TD noWrap>michaeleahci says "i understand that u might be worried".</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>167</TH><TD noWrap>michaeleahci raises to 17500.</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>168</TH><TD noWrap>Big Puns folds.</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>169</TH><TD noWrap>michaeleahci is returned 12500 (uncalled).</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>170</TH><TD></TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>171 </TH><TD></TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>172 </TH><TD noWrap>Hand #38769182-190 Summary:</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>173</TH><TD noWrap>No rake is taken for this hand.</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>174</TH><TD noWrap>michaeleahci wins 11000.</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>175</TH><TD noWrap>Hand 38769182-190 ends.</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>176</TH><TD noWrap>Hand 38769182-191 begins.</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>177</TH><TD></TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>178 </TH><TD noWrap>Hand #38769182-191 at Tue930pm25K-Final (No Limit tournament Hold'em)</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>179</TH><TD noWrap>Started at 17/Jan/07 02:51:23</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>180</TH><TD noWrap>michaeleahci is at seat 6 with 156180.</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>181</TH><TD noWrap>Big Puns is at seat 9 with 181320.</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>182</TH><TD noWrap>The button is at seat 6.</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>183</TH><TD></TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>184 </TH><TD noWrap>michaeleahci posts ante (500).</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>185</TH><TD noWrap>Big Puns posts ante (500).</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>186</TH><TD noWrap>The button is moved to seat 9.</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>187</TH><TD noWrap>Big Puns posts the small blind of 2500.</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>188</TH><TD noWrap>michaeleahci posts the big blind of 5000.</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>189</TH><TD noWrap>michaeleahci, at seat 6, is in this hand.</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>190</TH><TD noWrap>Big Puns, at seat 9, is in this hand.</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>191</TH><TD></TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>192 </TH><TD noWrap>michaeleahci is dealt:</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>193</TH><TD noWrap>Big Puns is dealt:</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>194</TH><TD noWrap>michaeleahci is dealt:</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>195</TH><TD noWrap>Big Puns is dealt:</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>196</TH><TD></TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>197 </TH><TD noWrap>Pre-flop:</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>198</TH><TD noWrap>Big Puns raises to 15000.</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>199</TH><TD noWrap>michaeleahci says "deal?".</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>200</TH><TD noWrap>Big Puns says "y, i guess".</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>201</TH><TD noWrap>michaeleahci goes all-in for 155680.</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>202</TH><TD noWrap>Big Puns calls.</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>203</TH><TD></TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>204 </TH><TD noWrap>Tournament all-in showdown -- players show:</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>205</TH><TD noWrap>michaeleahci shows Kc Ad.</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>206</TH><TD noWrap>Big Puns shows Ah Td.</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>207</TH><TD></TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>208 </TH><TD noWrap>flop card: 5h</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>209</TH><TD noWrap>flop card: 4s</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>210</TH><TD noWrap>flop card: 4d</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>211</TH><TD noWrap>Flop (board: 5h 4s 4d):</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>212</TH><TD noWrap>(no action in this round)</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>213</TH><TD></TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>214 </TH><TD noWrap>turn card: 6d</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>215</TH><TD noWrap>Turn (board: 5h 4s 4d 6d):</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>216</TH><TD noWrap>(no action in this round)</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>217</TH><TD></TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>218 </TH><TD noWrap>river card: 7h</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>219</TH><TD noWrap>River (board: 5h 4s 4d 6d 7h):</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>220</TH><TD noWrap>(no action in this round)</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>221</TH><TD></TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>222 </TH><TD></TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>223 </TH><TD noWrap>Showdown:</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>224</TH><TD noWrap>michaeleahci has Kc Ad 4s 4d 7h: a pair of fours.</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>225</TH><TD noWrap>Big Puns has Ah Td 4s 4d 7h: a pair of fours.</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>226</TH><TD></TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>227 </TH><TD noWrap>Hand #38769182-191 Summary:</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>228</TH><TD noWrap>No rake is taken for this hand.</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>229</TH><TD noWrap>michaeleahci wins 312360 with a pair of fours.</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>230</TH><TD noWrap>Hand 38769182-191 ends.</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

line 199 - deal?
line 200 - y, I guess

This consitutes a deal. I do not see how you can say it does not. You asked if it was a deal, and he responded with a yes. That is a deal in my book.

Weak sauce... on your part. VWP UB.

What a scumbag! VNH UB! Props to UB for this!!

<TABLE cellSpacing=0 border=2><TBODY><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>199</TH><TD noWrap>michaeleahci says "deal?".</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12>200</TH><TD noWrap>Big Puns says "y, i guess".</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
Dick - they should take your whole prize and sent it to him...

Unreal you came here crying...

looks like he agreed to a deal

<table bgcolor="#ffffff" border="0" cellpadding="4" cellspacing="0" width="100%"><tbody><tr bgcolor="#eeeedd"><td bgcolor="#ffffff"></td><td><table border="0" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr><td valign="top"> </td><td>Re(2): UB final table deal gone awry - UB plays 'BIG BROTHER' and enforces bogus deal
by Hodge05 on 1/21/2007 02:44 </td><td><table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr><td><nobr> </nobr> </td><td><table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr><td></td><td></td></tr><tr><td></td><td> </td></tr></tbody></table> </td></tr></tbody></table> </td></tr></tbody></table> </td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffffff"><td bgcolor="#ffffff"></td><td colspan="2"><table celspacing="0" border="0" cellpadding="2"><tbody><tr><td><table border="2" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr valign="bottom"><th align="center" bgcolor="#b0b0b0" height="12" nowrap="nowrap">199</th><td nowrap="nowrap">michaeleahci says "deal?".</td></tr><tr valign="bottom"><th align="center" bgcolor="#b0b0b0" height="12" nowrap="nowrap">200</th><td nowrap="nowrap">Big Puns says "y, i guess".</td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table>
done deal. pleade the 5th next time

no flamin here jester. everthing u just said is right on.

nice reply