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ugly river spot in FTOPs with flush

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  1. Deoxyribo Deoxyribo is offline

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    Aug 5th, 2009 (8/5/2009 9:25pm)

    Full Tilt Poker Game #13844022183: FTOPS Event #1 (96414503), Table 568 - 15/30 - No Limit Hold'em - 21:19:26 ET - 2009/08/05
    Seat 1: E-FUNDS (4,735)
    Seat 2: southside1 (5,410)
    Seat 4: DSchec (5,045)
    Seat 5: kennl (4,945)
    Seat 6: ImTheDJ (4,880)
    Seat 7: tjavicbc (4,670)
    Seat 8: dDeoxyribo (5,085)
    Seat 9: scragglefish (5,230)
    tjavicbc posts the small blind of 15
    dDeoxyribo posts the big blind of 30
    The button is in seat #6
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to dDeoxyribo [Jh 4h]
    scragglefish folds
    E-FUNDS calls 30
    southside1 folds
    DSchec has 15 seconds left to act
    DSchec folds
    kennl folds
    ImTheDJ folds
    tjavicbc calls 15
    dDeoxyribo checks
    *** FLOP *** [As Ah 7h]
    tjavicbc checks
    dDeoxyribo checks
    E-FUNDS has 15 seconds left to act
    E-FUNDS bets 60
    tjavicbc folds
    dDeoxyribo calls 60
    *** TURN *** [As Ah 7h] [Th]
    dDeoxyribo bets 120
    E-FUNDS has 15 seconds left to act
    E-FUNDS calls 120
    *** RIVER *** [As Ah 7h Th] [4c]
    dDeoxyribo has 15 seconds left to act
    dDeoxyribo bets 275
    E-FUNDS has 15 seconds left to act
    E-FUNDS has requested TIME
    E-FUNDS raises to 1,788
    dDeoxyribo has 15 seconds left to act
    dDeoxyribo has requested TIME

    guy has a neg 91% ROI over tiny sample size. has been playing a lot of pots.

    whats your play here, and WHY?
     
  2. bef99hwk bef99hwk is offline

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    Aug 5th, 2009 (8/5/2009 11:06pm) in reply to Deoxyribo

    He's horribad for not value raising his made hand on the turn with these deep of stacks is what he is...I just fold because if he's an idiot u never have a clue....he could have kqh, 89h, a7 at a4...flip a coin if you want but i fold.
  3. SigmaBetaRho SigmaBetaRho is offline

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    Aug 5th, 2009 (8/5/2009 11:20pm) in reply to bef99hwk

    I would call. I feel like most of the time you are up against trips.
  4. bef99hwk bef99hwk is offline

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    Aug 5th, 2009 (8/5/2009 11:22pm) in reply to SigmaBetaRho

     
    Originally Posted by SigmaBetaRho View Post

    I would call. I feel like most of the time you are up against trips.

    Yeah ppl amaze me...they like don't see paired boards or flush boards or anything...I feel trips would raise smaller than 8x on the river, especiallly since he has <AT here imo...I think he has boat honestly, or MAYBE kqh but doubt he bets flop.
  5. Deoxyribo Deoxyribo is offline

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    Aug 6th, 2009 (8/6/2009 6:36am) in reply to Deoxyribo

    bump. any more opinions?
     
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  6. LoadtheToad LoadtheToad is offline

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    Aug 6th, 2009 (8/6/2009 9:22am) in reply to Deoxyribo

    U just gotta read the player on this one
     
  7. bonflizubi bonflizubi is offline

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    Aug 6th, 2009 (8/6/2009 10:18am) in reply to LoadtheToad

    If he's really that bad then i think it's an obv fold. The question to me is what would he limp in early position. KQ suited for teh nut flush doesn't shock me. And neither would a suited ace be out of the question id he's really a donk.

    Clear fold to me. I think he has a boat, and either didn't know when to get value or hit the boat on the river.

    Also, I thought it was interesting that he banks before making his action on each street. EIther he's a donk that learned the bank and think with the nuts trick and boated you on teh flop, or he had one of the other aces or KQ and couldn't decide what to do on the flop and then what to do when he made the boat.

    Just not the spot for the hero call here.
     
  8. jasament jasament is offline

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    Aug 6th, 2009 (8/6/2009 11:38am) in reply to Deoxyribo

    check call river? unless he never value bets thin or bluffs the river there, i think check call is best if you arent going to call a shove.
  9. IbizaCF3 IbizaCF3 is offline

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    Aug 6th, 2009 (8/6/2009 3:20pm) in reply to Deoxyribo

    Results?
  10. Deoxyribo Deoxyribo is offline

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    Aug 6th, 2009 (8/6/2009 4:00pm) in reply to IbizaCF3

     
    Originally Posted by IbizaCF3 View Post

    Results?

    i ended up folding.
    i think it was the correct play. the river raise was just too big.
    i coulda check-called but im missing a ton of value if he ever checks behind.
    i timebanked my whole time on this play but the more i think the more im on the edge lol.
    he was so bad i coulda had him beat but well see
     
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  11. The Lab Rat The Lab Rat is offline

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    Aug 6th, 2009 (8/6/2009 4:39pm) in reply to Deoxyribo

    Good fold
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  12. ronkend ronkend is offline

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    Aug 6th, 2009 (8/6/2009 4:41pm) in reply to The Lab Rat

     
    Originally Posted by francis116 View Post

    Good fold

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