[The Lab Rat]

No reads on villian. When i raise him on the flop im calling if he jams. When he makes a mini 3 bet on the flop to 1080 with 1600-1700 back then it gets kinda gross and he looks strong to me. Im not one that ever "raises to find out where I'm at" but I thought this was a gross spot. Thanks all for replies



pokerstars Game #46390670727: Tournament #319010651, $100+$9 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level III (20/40) - 2010/07/05 16:41:10 ET
Table '319010651 14' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: -#1Lottery- (2940 in chips)
Seat 2: The Lag rat (6850 in chips)
Seat 3: soros74 (5770 in chips)
Seat 4: ripping (3310 in chips)
Seat 5: gina bobina (2505 in chips)
Seat 6: maverick570 (2730 in chips)
Seat 7: poustefix (5600 in chips)
Seat 8: Pointer (6005 in chips)
Pointer: posts small blind 20
-#1Lottery-: posts big blind 40
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to The Lag rat [Ad Ah]
The Lag rat: raises 80 to 120
soros74: folds
ripping: folds
gina bobina: folds
maverick570: folds
poustefix: folds
Pointer: folds
-#1Lottery-: calls 80
*** FLOP *** [9s 3s 6s]
-#1Lottery-: bets 160
The Lag rat: raises 284 to 444
-#1Lottery-: raises 636 to 1080
The Lag rat:

[Deoxyribo]

As9x imo

[rainmanrcp]

 

Originally Posted by Deoxyribo

As9x imo

Definitely sounds about right, I feel like a set is leaning towards jamming here and flopped flush is smooth calling all day. Could also be some kind of combo draw, I think this is a good spot to flip it up for his stack.

[MastaP89]

 

Originally Posted by Deoxyribo

As9x imo

doubt that is in his preflop defending range

[matze_widi]

i don�t play many turbos and don�t know villain but his line looks super strong to me..u prolly haven�t much FE and your naked AA are flipping at best vs his raise/call value range so it might be a sigh fold...then again it�s a turbo idk how much that affects the decission

[cotchery89]

im not folding....he can have a ton of combo draws that your hand doesnt do fantastic vs, but that your hand has equity against...also TT-KK could be in his range as well imo....

also might prefer flatting the AA there and re-evaluating future streets...thoughts?

[litlebullet]

i flat there on flop like 70% of the time and re-eval for sure.

[yarbles]

i like flatting and reavluating on the turn... but yeah gross 2.3x as played i fold and dont feel bad about it... your drawing 60 percent against any h draw and worse to combo draw and near dead if he flopped it. if hes calling station and flatted with something like 9c 7s in the bb then he's actually favored. Edited By: yarbles Jul 6th, 2010 at 10:44 AM

[JasonBDizzle account restricted by moderator -- must reply in this thread before posting anywhere else on the boards]

been mulling over this hand for awhile. i honestly cant think of a range of hands we are that far ahead of even if we are in fact ahead atm.

[MakeMeMaster]

fold

[JasonBDizzle account restricted by moderator -- must reply in this thread before posting anywhere else on the boards]

let me back my last thought up by saying even if he has 1010-KK he almost definitely isnt doing this without a spade in his hand.

i think fold as well

[LiquidSw0rd]

He has to shut down on the turn quite often to justify a flat call/reevaluate. That seems very unlikley to me.

As played, i see a fold. Sigh.

[Appst08]

 

Originally Posted by MakeMeMaster

fold

why are we raising flop with AA if we are folding?

sick bluff mmm

[mementmori]

Flop is a pretty easy call, raise/folding flop would be terrible. Edited By: mementmori Jul 6th, 2010 at 07:55 PM

[33mikemcg]

I think you are in trouble. I fold as played.

[Illini213]

I'd go with it here ... and the fact that it's a turbo makes his range wider in this spot imo, he could have a flush but think its more likely for him to have a naked As here.

I really don't like raising flop if you're thinking about folding... if you don't know what you're going to do if he comes over the top of you and if thats going to put you in a real tough spot here, you can always flat flop. Edited By: Illini213 Jul 6th, 2010 at 11:44 PM

[dudlri]

i call flop almost always then re-evaluate on the turn.
as played it really really sucks to fold but just fold.

and im not a big fan of your line "raise his donk lead and call off if he shoves".

[MDG0RD0N]

Shove because you're The Lab Rat and it's a turbo, easy game?

[moneyinbag]

rewager all the chips!

[jet5087]

i certainly like to see a turn here

edit: as played shove Edited By: jet5087 Jul 7th, 2010 at 04:09 AM

[CoderMan1]

i nominate this thread as top "Move to Hand Advice" contender of the night

[Jeangrae]

as played I sighgetitin. I personally like flatting flop better though