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UIGEA - Text to Win

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  1. JackBileDuct JackBileDuct is offline

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    Jun 29th, 2007 (6/29/2007 11:26am)

    Food for thought if this hasn't already been brought up. I hate to use debate tactics that stray off subject by point to similiar circumstances but that is what I am about to do. Every now and then I watch "Deal or No Deal" and have seen "1 vs 100" two or three times. Both shows run on NBC and in both there is a "Text to win" portion in the game. I'm sure many have seen in "Deal or No Deal" where you text in to guess the number of the case that contains 10,000. A winner is selected from all those that text the winning number. How the hell is this not illegal? How is NBC getting away with it? They charge you a fee for the text. It is like $2. We all know texting a single number does not cost $2 in telco fees so obviously they are extracting an entry fee from you. They are doing this country wide and it is obviously a game of chance. It is done from phones and although wirelessly ( although towers may be hard wired to back bones in places ) this type of gambling falls more in line with legislation that was already in place. You are basically placing a bet by phone when you text to win. So how the hell is NBC doing it and where are the Feds to protect those that can't control themselves and text 10 times every show?!?!?!
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    Jun 29th, 2007 (6/29/2007 12:50pm) in reply to JackBileDuct

    probably because you're the only donk in the entire free world that actually sends a text to that number. gg $2.
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    Jun 29th, 2007 (6/29/2007 1:25pm) in reply to tmacckk

    No I've not and if you bothered to read the post ( can you comprehend something more than one line long ? ) you would see I am questioning the legality of it. They are hosting a national game of chance for an entry fee. This is the very thing that is supposed to be against the law yet they are doing it.
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    Jun 29th, 2007 (6/29/2007 1:54pm) in reply to JackBileDuct

    http://www.pocketfives.com/2835743D-...C8F95093A.aspx
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    Jun 29th, 2007 (6/29/2007 2:03pm) in reply to Numskull21

    Thanks. I had posted some other questions to her and didn't think to ask about this. Revisiting the thread.
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    Jun 29th, 2007 (6/29/2007 2:12pm) in reply to tmacckk

    There is "gambling" going on all over the place.
    This big companies have good lawyers and they know how to setup all these "contest" so its not illegal.
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    Jun 29th, 2007 (6/29/2007 2:15pm) in reply to JackBileDuct

    NBC isn't charging the $2 fee. It's whomever is doing their call processing. You're not paying an entry fee...you're paying a surcharge. NBC may get a kickback from whomever for being the "official text processing handler of 1 VS 100"...but they aren't getting a piece of the fee.
     
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    Jun 29th, 2007 (6/29/2007 2:17pm) in reply to grapsfan

    They are getting a piece just not directly.
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    Jun 29th, 2007 (6/29/2007 2:25pm) in reply to JackBileDuct

    Yes...and that's all it takes.

    Nice try, but it's not a good enough argument to impress on a U.S. Representative that we're prepared and know what we're doing to fight the good fight.
     
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    Jun 29th, 2007 (6/29/2007 2:35pm) in reply to grapsfan

    Well I'm just curious what her thoughts are. Not saying this is a basis for any legal issues but it does show the real intent of the law.
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    Jun 29th, 2007 (6/29/2007 2:44pm) in reply to JackBileDuct

    I haven't seen the show, but a lot of times when you see some kind of contests on TV or like at a fast food chain, there will be a list of states where people are not eligible to win, or it will say void where prohibited or something along those lines, some states have lotteries some don't etc. I don't know if there are restrictions on the contests that you are talking about, but that could be one way that they keep it legal.
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    Jun 29th, 2007 (6/29/2007 2:45pm) in reply to thekyle81

    Yes but they are doing it nationally on TV and any game of chance with an entry fee over phone lines ( cell phones in this case ) is supposed to be illegal.
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    Jun 29th, 2007 (6/29/2007 3:47pm) in reply to JackBileDuct

    This reminds of many other contests that a run constantly.

    Recently I read an article about a father who took his 2 sons around entering fishing contests. They pay an entry fee and then the top 3 fish catchers split the prize pool! Now I know it's not using cards, chips, a computer or phone but isn't this 11 and 12 year olds wagering against one another with the winner(s) taking the prize pool?

    How is that substantively different from a poker tournament?
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    Jun 29th, 2007 (6/29/2007 9:01pm) in reply to JackBileDuct

    Actually, the reason is that guessing boxes is obv more of a skill game than poker.
     
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